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Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

575 点作者 jaredwiener3 个月前

37 条评论

leetrout3 个月前
Clear view from the plane waiting to take off<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;CatastrophicFailure&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1isabtg&#x2F;a_clear_visual_of_delta_airlines_crashlanding_at&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;CatastrophicFailure&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1isabt...</a><p>Which also brings into mind cockpit distractions but its amazing they caught this on video.
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lqet3 个月前
The consensus on r&#x2F;aviation seems to be that it was caused by wind shear.<p>&gt; This looks like wind shear to me. It was a stable approach and then it suddenly got slammed into the ground. That doesn&#x27;t look like pilot-induced change in descent rate, it is too sudden for that. A sudden change in wind direction (shear) when that slow can absolutely cause a sudden loss of lift.<p>&gt; We have had almost 2 feet of snow up here since Friday, and are experiencing wind gusts up to 65 mph. Has basically been a winter hurricane.<p>&gt; This is a CRJ landing on Runway 23 at YYZ. It is an 11,000’ runway. Winds at the time where gusting from the NE likely north of 30 knots, so this was a cross wind landing. My bet is that it wasn’t the worst situation that any of the pilots had been in. Delta is a pretty good company. Guessing (as a GA pilot and talking to pilots of bigger birds than this —- I know a few). Likely wind shear or wake turbulence. The wake turbulence part would be a reach considering the cross wind component would have blown it away by the time of this landing.
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einhard3 个月前
I stitched together a small audio clip from LiveATC with both the Ground and Tower frequencies mapped to the Left and Right audio channels. It starts around the time the aircraft was cleared to land, and then skips forward to the moment the controllers realized the aircraft crashed.<p>Here is a link to the .mp3 file (it&#x27;s on Discord for now - I don&#x27;t know if this is allowed, let me know if it isn&#x27;t):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.discordapp.com&#x2F;attachments&#x2F;668315121772134401&#x2F;1341161260192104448&#x2F;YYZ_Crash.mp3?ex=67b4fd42&amp;is=67b3abc2&amp;hm=8fbc24aaf3163c5ec2d0c521a6816cc3488a8306673b3f932f90717587d7eb78&amp;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.discordapp.com&#x2F;attachments&#x2F;668315121772134401&#x2F;13...</a>
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guardiangod3 个月前
That&#x27;s incredible. The plane literally turned over and burnt but no casualty. The flight staff must have done as amazing job keeping everyone calm and helped everyone get out of the upside, burning plane.
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pseingatl3 个月前
Compare this crash to the Emirates crash in Dubai (EK 521, 2016). In the Emirates incident, the passengers stalled the evacuation in order to grab their carry-ons. Many were seen on the tarmac dragging roll-aboards. Here the passengers chose life over property and efficiently evacuated the aircraft.
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loeg3 个月前
Blancolirio video out today: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oOYiQG43v64" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oOYiQG43v64</a><p>* Approach seems mostly unobjectionable (reasonable rate of descent, plausible looking approach speed)<p>* Runway not especially slick<p>* May have touched down short and left of centerline<p>Hope for a preliminary report from Canada Transportation Safety Board in a couple weeks.<p>Pilot Blog as well: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=tIhEIUrTLco" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=tIhEIUrTLco</a><p>He suspects landing speed may have been too low, making it impossible to flare correctly.<p>(Both channels are former airline pilots.)
haunter3 个月前
Video from a passanger, the hull is upside down!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;watch&#x2F;?v=617972644350232" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;watch&#x2F;?v=617972644350232</a>
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creativeSlumber3 个月前
I&#x27;ve been looking for a video of the landing to see how it over turned, but haven&#x27;t found one yet. I would have expected all airport runways to have multiple security cameras pointing at them t all times in this day and age.
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YuukiRey3 个月前
It&#x27;s always interesting to follow the discussions on PPRuNe <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pprune.org&#x2F;accidents-close-calls&#x2F;664303-delta-crj-crash-toronto-17th-feb-25-a-5.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pprune.org&#x2F;accidents-close-calls&#x2F;664303-delta-cr...</a><p>Unverified reports by another pilot are that the plane struck a wing then sort of cart wheeled
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haunter3 个月前
Video from a passenger<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;watch&#x2F;?v=617972644350232" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;watch&#x2F;?v=617972644350232</a>
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yreg3 个月前
Apparently everyone survived (at least so far).<p>&#x2F;r&#x2F;aviation thread: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;aviation&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1irsmp8&#x2F;airplane_crash_at_cyyz_within_the_last_hour&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;aviation&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1irsmp8&#x2F;airplane_...</a>
robomartin3 个月前
Is there a reason why airport cameras seem to always be crappy? You&#x27;d think they would be required to maintain high quality cameras with dozens covering each runway to study every aspect of the operation, not just accidents.
screye3 个月前
Lots of recent incidents with regional bombardier jets. First DC, now this.<p>Have there been any recent with major commercial jets yet ?
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kps3 个月前
Three critical among eight injured, according to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ctvnews.ca&#x2F;toronto&#x2F;local&#x2F;peel&#x2F;article&#x2F;live-updates-one-kid-two-adults-critically-injured-after-airplane-crash-at-toronto-pearson&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ctvnews.ca&#x2F;toronto&#x2F;local&#x2F;peel&#x2F;article&#x2F;live-updat...</a>
mrandish3 个月前
It&#x27;s going to be interesting to hear how the plane ended up flipped upside down. There&#x27;s ice on the ground so maybe a skid on braking resulting in hitting something near the runway causing the flip.
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DamonHD3 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;live&#x2F;c0q080y02xgt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;live&#x2F;c0q080y02xgt</a><p>Also, posted later as <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43083016">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43083016</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;liveandletsfly.com&#x2F;delta-crash-toronto&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;liveandletsfly.com&#x2F;delta-crash-toronto&#x2F;</a>
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DidYaWipe3 个月前
It&#x27;s mystifying that any airport with commercial service doesn&#x27;t have cameras with a full view of every runway recording 100% of the time.<p>You can&#x27;t steal a catalytic converter without being on video. We have webcams placed behind eagles&#x27; nests in our national parks. Yet somehow we have no recordings of plane crashes at our airports.<p>Then of course there&#x27;s the lack of cameras on the planes themselves...
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TimByte3 个月前
Major respect to the first responders and passengers who helped each other
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swat5353 个月前
How is it possible for a plane to be flipped like that? This is terrible..
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userbinator3 个月前
AVherald has a page for this already: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;avherald.com&#x2F;h?article=52439b47&amp;opt=0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;avherald.com&#x2F;h?article=52439b47&amp;opt=0</a>
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heyflyguy3 个月前
Totally different speculation than wind shear and that is the whiteout condition of the runway &#x2F; area. I am also curious about the radalt.
EncomLab3 个月前
Aviation A2Z reporting that this was a no-flap landing due to a flap actuator failure. Hard to tell in the videos posted if that is the case, but would explain the hard landing.
martin823 个月前
What on earth is going on?!<p>I&#x27;m quite sure I have heard about more plane accidents in the last two years than in the entire fourty years of my life before that. This is absurd.
synergy203 个月前
too many aircraft accidents these days<p>what&#x27;s the root cause
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mikequinlan3 个月前
Has anyone found the wings yet?
jseip3 个月前
1) Descent rate was way too high. 2) No ‘flare’ 3) left wing angled upward forced right landing gear to absorb all force, resulting in hard shock to the body and then ground roll, tearing off both wings. 4) If 1-3 are true, landing pilot (could be actual pilot or FO) is incompetent 5) Thank god everyone got out alive
WalterBright3 个月前
I&#x27;ve not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there&#x27;s a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it.<p>Which leads to my repeated bafflement as to why there are no video cameras constantly pointed at flight ops at the airport.<p>If every 7-11 can have a security cam recording hi-def 24&#x2F;7, why can&#x27;t a couple of these be mounted in the tower pointed at the tarmac?
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iwontberude3 个月前
The plane is.. upside down?
paul79863 个月前
Damn so many airplane crashes in the last 12 months ... pretty sure a lot more then the norm!
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jzer0cool3 个月前
Noticing number of major planes incidents suddenly over last few weeks ...
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0xjunhao3 个月前
Maybe we should build more railways. The ground is more stable than the air.
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bsimpson3 个月前
It&#x27;s wild to me that this is at the top of Hacker News, but not even on the Google News front page.<p>I feel like major airline crashes are usually headlines.
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smashah3 个月前
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hindsightbias3 个月前
People are finally getting acclimated to the crash rates we were used to back in the old days.
xyst3 个月前
Confidence and trust in flying at an all time low. DAL about to dip at MO tomorrow. Airlines about to get a massive bailout, again.
bbarnett3 个月前
Starting to wonder of subtle hacking is involved.
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lukev3 个月前
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