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How people get rich now (2021)

38 点作者 Brajeshwar3 个月前

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the_cat_kittles3 个月前
&quot;People who don&#x27;t look any deeper than the Gini coefficient look back on the world of 1982 as the good old days, because those who got rich then didn&#x27;t get as rich. But if you dig into how they got rich, the old days don&#x27;t look so good. In 1982, 84% of the richest 100 people got rich by inheritance, extracting natural resources, or doing real estate deals. Is that really better than a world in which the richest people get rich by starting tech companies?&quot;<p>this is a really stupid point, even for paul grahm. no one looks back at 1982 as the good old days, and the gini coefficient can be low without enriching oil barrons, and to see this is true, remind yourself that other countries exist.
9999000009993 个月前
It wouldn&#x27;t bother me if the richest had tens of trillions.<p>The issue is no normal people can buy homes now. You need to make, what 300k as a couple to buy a home in LA. You can&#x27;t buy a home you can&#x27;t hedge against rising rent.<p>You can&#x27;t leave your family a dime.<p>If you can keep housing and food affordable, Zuckerberg can declare himself Czar and most people would be just fine with it.
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rznicolet3 个月前
The 100 richest people are (by design) going to be very unrepresentative of the whole, depending on how &quot;rich&quot; is defined. How does the balance between inheritance and other sources of wealth shift if we look further down the list?<p>I suspect the late 1800s, another era when inheritance was a lesser source of extreme wealth, may also be unrepresentative of the &quot;typical&quot; state. Massive upheavals in technology (mass production, computerization&#x2F;Internet) seem to me to be more likely to be exceptions, rather than the rule, over very long time horizons.<p>Regardless, we may be entering another era of consolidation since this article was written. It will be... interesting... to see how it shakes out.
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rawgabbit3 个月前
What PG describes is an economic philosophy where “tech” is used to create fortunes that rivals the oil and real estate magnates of yester year. In the past, great wealth was gained from extracting resources from the earth. Now “tech” extracts great wealth … through Ad Technology (Google) and online shopping (Amazon) and monopolistic business practices (Microsoft) and relentless hype in the AI magical money machine (Nvidia). The dismissive attitude towards employees remains the same. If they could replace all employees with AI or H1B, they wouldn’t hesitate for a second. The only tech today I see that has increased productivity is AWS movement of automation to the cloud and limited applications of LLM to remove some white collar drudgery. At least the oil fortunes of the past provided the fuel that powered the machines that powered our economy. “Tech” imo is mostly hype and a ponzi scheme to get more suckers to invest in shitcoin.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF3 个月前
Power is fungible. Money can be traded for political power. The existence of multi-billionaires is a threat to democracy because it means power accumulates, as it naturally does, and isn&#x27;t distributed among all people<p>I say this because I recently changed my mind on it after seeing president musk buy the election
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actuallyalys3 个月前
It is a bit funny the era he compares today to is 1892—the gilded age.<p>Anyway, 1982 may not be a very appealing low-Gini coefficient period to return to, but 1892 also seems like a bad time. I actually found the comparison interesting enough, even though the arguments fall flat, but I think we need to look more broadly to understand inequality.
alexashka3 个月前
The way people got rich since the 1970s is finance.<p>A venture capitalist of all people surely knows this.<p>Zuckerberg owns 13% of meta and that&#x27;s <i>high</i>. Where did the 87% go? Finance.<p>Sure, go start a company and find out you&#x27;re entirely dependent on finance to get anywhere.<p>If Paul&#x27;s essays reflected real life - 95% of them would be about finance because that&#x27;s how much of your company they&#x27;ll have within 10 years <i>if you succeed</i>.
bbor3 个月前
<p><pre><code> That&#x27;s why founders sometimes get so rich so young now. The low initial cost of starting a startup means founders can start young, and the fast growth of companies today means that if they succeed they could be surprisingly rich just a few years later. </code></pre> Heh... a touch of self-awareness. This seems like a good time to remind people that Graham is unimaginably wealthy--more than you&#x27;d be if you worked 10 lifetimes--because he cofounded <i>Yahoo Store</i>[1], a function so meaningless and forgotten it doesn&#x27;t even get a mention on Wikipedias list of 98 defunct Yahoo services[2], much less a page of its own.<p>Silicon Valley&#x27;s truly unique era was long over by 1990, much less 2000[3]; everything since has been marketing, monopolization, and hilarious amounts of confidence from people who lucked into millions as a byproduct. The most entertaining&#x2F;terrifying version of this in 2025 is of course the recent quote <i>&quot;Silicon Valley built the modern world. Shouldn&#x27;t we get to run it?&quot;</i> by, I shit you not, the creator of Roblox.[4]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Viaweb" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Viaweb</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_Yahoo-owned_sites_and_services" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_Yahoo-owned_sites_and_...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Silicon_Valley#Rise_of_Silicon" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Silicon_Valley#Rise_of_Silicon</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;Shedletsky&#x2F;status&#x2F;1886563357249212846" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;Shedletsky&#x2F;status&#x2F;1886563357249212846</a>
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armSixtyFour3 个月前
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ryandrake3 个月前
PG is contrasting getting rich through inheritance vs. through starting a business, and saying &quot;look, different kinds of people are getting rich!&quot; I&#x27;d argue these are two sides of the same coin. The people getting rich are, by and large, the people <i>who already have money</i>. Sure, there are a few notable exceptions, that HN commenters will no doubt point out. How many of the top 100 richest people in the world today had already-well-off families backstopping their risk-taking? That&#x27;s really not that different than just being an heir.
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la647103 个月前
How people get rich now begs the question of how many people get rich now? What percentage of the population?