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MongoDB acquires Voyage AI

119 点作者 marc__13 个月前

16 条评论

jamesrr393 个月前
Genuine question: I appreciate the comments about MongoDB being much better than it was 10 years ago; but Postgres is also much better today than then as well. What situations is Mongo better than Postgres? Why choose Mongo in 2025?
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connectsnk3 个月前
I understand the criticisms, but in my experience, MongoDB has come a long way. Many of the earlier issues people mention have been addressed. Features like sharding, built-in replication, and flexible schemas have made scaling large datasets much smoother for me. It’s not perfect, but it’s a solid choice.
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rich_stable3 个月前
For context, I am a startup founder, an Atlas user, and not what anyone would call a &quot;major account&quot;. I&#x27;m also in my early 30&#x27;s, so I wasn&#x27;t around for the whole &quot;web scale&quot; meme era of MongoDB.<p>I have personally been incredibly impressed with the way MongoDB has &quot;looked out&quot; for my company over the past year. I&#x27;ll try to be satisfactorily specific their with privacy in mind, so this may come out a bit fuzzy. Their technical teams, both overseas and US, have produced some of the most thorough, detailed recommendations I have ever seen and their communication&#x2F;followup was excellent. I&#x27;ve run many designs and ideas by their team, out of habit at this point, and have always been pleased with the response. They remember who I am. All of this is really unusual for a company at my growth stage.<p>My use case requires full technical depth on text searching and vectorization; I use every aspect of Atlas Search that is available. A downside of building &quot;bleeding edge&quot; is that my tooling needs always seem to be just inches beyond what is available, so just about every release seems to have something that is &quot;for me.&quot; It&#x27;s hard to say if my feedback specifically has an impact on their roadmap - but they really do seem to build things I want. I think they reported ~50% better performance on bulkWrite() in the 8 release, but it was closer to 500% for my use case.<p>Speaking of, this acquisition is like providence for me, because I&#x27;ve shared my various solutions with them for synchronously vectorizing &quot;stuff&quot; for use with local LLMs. It&#x27;s a reasonably hard technical problem without a lot of consensus on standards; I think a lot of people believe there are standards, yet any discussion will quickly devolve into something like the &quot;postgres&#x2F;mongo&quot; conversations you see here (I won&#x27;t be visiting that topic).<p>I strongly agree with the &quot;this should be a database level feature&quot; approach they are taking here; that&#x27;s certainly how my brain wants to think about it and currently I have to do a lot of &quot;glue&quot;-ing to make it work the way I require.<p>I hope they win.
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kaycebasques3 个月前
Bloomberg says it was a $220M cash &amp; stock deal: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2025-02-24&#x2F;mongodb-buys-voyage-ai-for-220-million-to-bolster-ai-search" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2025-02-24&#x2F;mongodb-b...</a>
hartator3 个月前
I rather them focus on performance.<p>Last MongoDB is still slower than MongoDB 3.4. An almost 10-year old release. For both reads and writes.
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moralestapia3 个月前
10x exit in a couple years, quite nice on the VC side!<p>On the tech side ... no idea what Mongo&#x27;s plan is ... their embedding model is not SOTA, does not even outperform the open ones out there, and reranking is a dead end in 2025.<p>I think the value is on Voyage&#x27;s team, their user base and having a vision that aligned with Mongo&#x27;s.<p>Congrats!
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markus_zhang3 个月前
Looks like everyone is jumping into the AI game. Is there a bubble?
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infecto3 个月前
Only skimmed through the release..I hope they continue supporting the API but it comes with a little higher confidence that the company behind it is not collecting all your data. Voyage has some interesting embedding models that I have been hesitant to fully utilize due to the lack of confidence in the startup behind it.
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schnebbau3 个月前
How does MongoDB still have that much available to spend? Everyone I know moved off it years ago.
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ChrisArchitect3 个月前
Voyage AI post: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.voyageai.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;02&#x2F;24&#x2F;joining-mongodb&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.voyageai.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;02&#x2F;24&#x2F;joining-mongodb&#x2F;</a>
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cpursley3 个月前
How is MongoDB still a thing when there&#x27;s already several ways to handle json in Postgres including Microsofts new documentdb extension:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;cpursley&#x2F;c8fb81fe8a7e5df038158bdfe0f06dbb#nosql" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;cpursley&#x2F;c8fb81fe8a7e5df038158bdfe0f...</a><p>What am I missing? Are Mongo users simply front end folks who didn&#x27;t have time to learn basic SQL or back end architecture?
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Beefin3 个月前
what&#x27;s the calculus here? if i&#x27;m a developer choosing a low-level primitive such as a database, i&#x27;m likely quite opinionated on which models i use.
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thecleaner3 个月前
Curious - do people migrate due to the price tag, ease of use, sth else ?
htrp3 个月前
Voyage AI basically builds embedding models for vector search
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redskyluan3 个月前
I&#x27;m actually very disappointed about the performance of Mongo vector search after I test on it. Any vector database, is better than mongodb performance wise.
lpapez3 个月前
Is Voyage AI web-scale yet?