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62 点作者 blenderob3 个月前

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gnfargbl3 个月前
My (minimally-informed) summary of the mailing list posts is that Hellwig thinks that the addition of Rust to the kernel is fundamentally bad because it [1]<p><i>&gt; turns Linux into a project written in multiple languages with no clear guidelines what language is to be used for where.</i><p>And that<p><i>&gt; Having worked on codebase like that they are my worst nightmare, because there is a constant churn of rewriting parts from language A to language B because of reason X and then back because of reason Z.</i><p>Torvalds&#x27; position is that Hellwig doesn&#x27;t have to like Rust or accept it in his subsystem at this point, but he has does have to accept that it <i>will</i> be part of the kernel [2]:<p><i>&gt; You can&#x27;t have it both ways. You can&#x27;t say &quot;I want to have nothing to do with Rust&quot;, and then in the very next sentence say &quot;And that means that the Rust code that I will ignore cannot use the C interfaces I maintain&quot;.</i><p>Hellwig appears unwilling to accept that.<p>I think this is a reasonable position on both sides. If Linus wants Rust in his kernel, that&#x27;s his choice. Memory safe languages are pretty much motherhood and apple pie at this point, and Linus very probably realises that Linux has to adapt or stagnate. On the other hand, if Christoph doesn&#x27;t want to continue in a role that he sees as becoming mostly churn and pain, it&#x27;s hard to blame him.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lore.kernel.org&#x2F;rust-for-linux&#x2F;Z7SwcnUzjZYfuJ4-@infradead.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lore.kernel.org&#x2F;rust-for-linux&#x2F;Z7SwcnUzjZYfuJ4-@infr...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lore.kernel.org&#x2F;rust-for-linux&#x2F;CAHk-=wgLbz1Bm8QhmJ4dJGSmTuV5w_R0Gwvg5kHrYr4Ko9dUHQ@mail.gmail.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lore.kernel.org&#x2F;rust-for-linux&#x2F;CAHk-=wgLbz1Bm8QhmJ4d...</a>
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wronex3 个月前
Here is the thread that likely sparked his resignation (if this is a resignation), and more specifically Linus’ response to Hellwig’s earlier comments regarding rust and the Linux kernel.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lore.kernel.org&#x2F;rust-for-linux&#x2F;CAHk-=wgLbz1Bm8QhmJ4dJGSmTuV5w_R0Gwvg5kHrYr4Ko9dUHQ@mail.gmail.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lore.kernel.org&#x2F;rust-for-linux&#x2F;CAHk-=wgLbz1Bm8QhmJ4d...</a><p>(Edit to include the correct name)
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dralley3 个月前
It&#x27;s a real shame that the drama led to so much real-world fallout.<p>Even though I feel pretty strongly that Christoph was in the wrong in this situation, it&#x27;s impossible to deny that he is one of the most prolific and experienced kernel maintainers, so this is a real loss and not something to feel any schadenfreude about.<p>I hope all those stepping back can get some space to reflect and figure out a way to operate more productively going forwards.
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hu33 个月前
For posterity. The Phoronix.com link was posted 3 hours ago.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43182354">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43182354</a>
ur-whale3 个月前
Looks to me like psycho-rigidity is a key attribute of being a kernel dev.
Havoc3 个月前
Can’t say I’m surprised. Didn’t seem like a workable situation for him
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high_na_euv3 个月前
It is so hard to read those mailing lists, ffs
Pet_Ant3 个月前
Yeah, is this a resignation? I&#x27;m guessing so from the context, but it&#x27;s not that clear.
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dmurvihill2 个月前
Good riddance.