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DARPA Large Bio-Mechanical Space Structures

215 点作者 jfantl3 个月前

26 条评论

ckemere3 个月前
When reading these program announcements, it&#x27;s important to keep in mind that the (unofficial?) mandate for a DARPA program officer is to fund proposals that lie in the boundaries of [Doesn&#x27;t at face violate laws of physics, P(Success) = 0.2]. A program where the vast majority of aims were clearly successfully delivered would be a program that should have been funded by other government agencies.<p>Of course, with R&amp;D currently on the chopping block, we&#x27;ll see if the same people that complain about NSF&#x2F;NIH start coming for DARPA also...
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ButOneDuck3 个月前
Looking at the comments, most people are approaching this as &#x27;grow, like trees&#x27;.<p>We&#x27;re literally talking moonshot projects here and nowhere does the brief mention specifically trees, or aerobic respiration&#x2F;processes, there is plenty of room for using Chitin, Spider silk, keratin or a combination of biopolymers to form resilient composite structures.<p>There&#x27;s already been videos of people using these as doping agents or additives for bulletproof armor, to middling success. The synthesis via yeast or e.coli for most of these are partially solved problems, its more texturing them or using bio-mechanical processing to form thread or ply or load bearing panels that seems to be the major hurdle. Also, being able to reliably source component and materials from near vacuum or whatever asteroid that happens to wander by that makes this a much more difficult problem to even define.
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ryandamm3 个月前
I saw this at a DSO* presentation (&quot;Darpa&#x27;s Darpa&quot;) back in ~2018. Hope they&#x27;ve gotten some early traction, that was some of the least wild crap that was being presented.<p>My company was pitching holographic cameras, and we weren&#x27;t scifi enough. The investigator wanted to know if we could do hyperspectral 3D imaging from something the size of a sugar cube. (&quot;Uh, no?&quot; was our response.)<p>* Defense Sciences Organization: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.darpa.mil&#x2F;about&#x2F;offices&#x2F;dso" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.darpa.mil&#x2F;about&#x2F;offices&#x2F;dso</a>
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barbazoo3 个月前
&gt; Some examples of structures that could be biologically manufactured and assembled, but that may be infeasible to produce traditionally, include tethers for a space elevator, grid-nets for orbital debris remediation, kilometer-scale interferometers for radio science, new self-assembled wings of a commercial space station for hosting additional payloads, or on-demand production of patch materials to adhere and repair micrometeorite damage.
L_2263 个月前
I almost wrote a short story about colonising Mars by firing radioisotope bullets with genetically engineered fungi coatings into the surface. These would metabolise the radiation and use the minerals in the crust to grow into large habitat volumes thick enough to retain atmosphere and insulate against radiation and thermal losses. Maybe it can be real one day!
chr13 个月前
Somewhat similar and probably easier to achieve would be trees floating in open ocean, and some kind of plant capable to bring nutrients up from the large depth.<p>Currently most of the ocean is a lifeless desert, with most of life concentrated in the places where upwelling occurs. This kind of floating trees would add enough biomass to compensate for all of the human produced CO2 and even more.
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hirenj3 个月前
First question I have is what kind of nutrient base conditions can we expect to start from? Should it be like Earth, or somewhere a bit more resource constrained (and how would it be constrained)?<p>I’d like to imagine solar reactors mimicking primordial goo to synthesise the essentials for these materials.
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nullbyte3 个月前
This is how Zerg starts
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Apofis3 个月前
That would be in interesting direction for our tech to go, everything grown organically including space structures.
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fuzzythinker3 个月前
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feverzsj3 个月前
I don&#x27;t want a bloody meat spaceship. They should try crystallization.
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binary1323 个月前
It doesn’t sound so crazy to grow fibrous vines and wood in a habitat, dry them and reclaim the water, and then use them in construction. Growing them in place in space sounds a little crazy.
29athrowaway3 个月前
That is how you end up with gray goo<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gray_goo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gray_goo</a>
debacle3 个月前
Step 1 would be to see if a nonporous wood holds up to the vacuum of space with enough durability. The biggest issue would be reclaiming moisture from the wood as it dried rather than losing it to space. Things like corals or molluscs would be too heavy (though that idea spawned a wonderful series of 16 bit side scrolling video games).<p>Without some sort of easy orbital exit&#x2F;entry, it&#x27;s unlikely that being &quot;in space&quot; will be a feasible permanent option.
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heyitsguay3 个月前
Cool idea, very ambitious, is there any prior research or feasible testing setup that would support getting from 0 to 1 with this?
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woleium3 个月前
Sounds like someone bought into the Dyson tree meme revival that was floating round the internet a month so ago!
CringingStump3 个月前
Protomolecule comes to mind.
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jeisc3 个月前
Couldn&#x27;t a self replicating structure grow out of control like vines and weeds?
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trhway3 个月前
the threshold to beat i think would be simple robots-3d-printers which could potentially 3d print any material using say laser or electron beam into pretty much anything of any size in space.
ge963 个月前
Cylon basestar here we come
Havoc3 个月前
This is how the Zerg from starcraft get created :p
TeeMassive3 个月前
Someone at DARPA read Night&#x27;s Dawn
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kolinko3 个月前
404. Mirror?
rjinman3 个月前
What the frell! This is cool.
nonelog3 个月前
&gt; [...] biological self-assembly properties of tunable materials (e.g. hydrogels [...]<p>FYI, hydrogels were part of the &quot;recent vaccine&quot; components.
jvoorhis3 个月前
complementary