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Google's Unannounced Update Scans All Your Photos

172 点作者 vednig2 个月前

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neilv2 个月前
&gt; <i>Lessons learnt for both Apple and Google in recent weeks then. If you want to turn our phones into AI-fueled machines, then let us know what you’re doing before you do it, and give us the opportunity to say yes or no. Otherwise it fuels fear of the unknown. And if AI is to bed down on our smartphones with access to all our apps and data, then it needs to establish high trust bars and stick to them rigidly.</i><p>Is that really a lesson learnt?<p>Didn&#x27;t Google already know what the reaction would be, before they consciously (given it&#x27;s a significant launch) decided to do it that way?<p>Why would they care about a little blogger noise?
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interloxia2 个月前
Not much discussion on hn from the few threads that come up in the search. But I want to highlight rini17 which links to a post from GrapheneOS that in turn links to the Google blog from Oct 2024.<p>My 2c is that this style of on device monitoring to warn users&#x2F;children is an expected evolution of parental content monitoring tools for the llm era.<p>Graphine is right. As open source it would be much better. Privacy and trust concerns would be easier to check and give the opportunity to make tools that empower parents and children to decide how they should moderate content on their devices.<p>Perhaps some communities are very worried about nudity where others are more concerned about hate speech. Having the choice on what to detect and how, or if, to act would be helpful.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43203303">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43203303</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;security.googleblog.com&#x2F;2024&#x2F;10&#x2F;5-new-protections-on-google-messages.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;security.googleblog.com&#x2F;2024&#x2F;10&#x2F;5-new-protections-on...</a>
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Freak_NL2 个月前
&gt; Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).<p>I got this after the Forbes tab had sat open for a few minutes. Gotta love the modern web.<p>I hate how modern society all but requires a smartphone running either Android or IOS. I am very happy that something like GrapheneOS (mentioned in the article as well) exists, and allows me to have a smartphone without fully joining either cult and trusting everything those megacorps push. I hate that this is such a vulnerable position to be in.
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Gasp0de2 个月前
I think the author of the article got a few things wrong. As far as I understood, SafetyCore is not &quot;scanning all your photos&quot;. It is an API that apps on your phone CAN use to LOCALLY detect nudity and other potentially inappropriate things in photos.
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a0223112 个月前
More privacy-invading bloatware for Android users. This is like an app that demonstrates how chat control would work. Nobody stops Google from flagging &quot;interesting&quot; images&#x2F;files as suspicious and uploading them to some cloud service for &quot;examination&quot;. Besides, there are countless other ways to avoid exposure to CSAM.<p>Google&#x27;s move of installing the app without my permission makes me distrust the company even more. And they did the same thing again with &quot;Android System Key Verifier&quot; which has a different purpose, but they should have asked for my consent. My reaction: uninstalled both apps and turned off auto-updates. I thought I owned my smartphone.
terminalbraid2 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;4VOdk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;4VOdk</a>
dmantis2 个月前
I&#x27;ve been very reluctant for several years to reinstall my stock Android on Pixel with GrapheneOS, as I don&#x27;t want to backup lots of things, have partially broken banking apps and having another linux moment when I have to figure out bunch of workarounds from scratch, but it seems that Google doesn&#x27;t give me any choice.<p>One espionage scandal after another: first Pixels send their location even without location sharing to Google, then several attempts to add some AI crap with completely closed-source implementation and who-knows-what-it-does.<p>Does anybody use it? Will I have a hard time migrating from Pixel&#x27;s stock Android?
gumby2712 个月前
I&#x27;ve seen this article circulating other sites, and it&#x27;s kind of crazy to compare that headline and the content to the reality of what&#x27;s happening here. In fact, reading the article now, I see it&#x27;s continuously been edited to add quotes pulled from Reddit, so I have to assume the goal here was largely just rage&#x2F;engagement bait.<p>The reality is that it&#x27;s an app that offer&#x27;s some on device models to detect nsfw content. Apps can choose to use those models instead of having to implement it themselves and I think that&#x27;s kind of it. There&#x27;s no scanning, there&#x27;s no uploading, the article is even pulling quotes from a random forum that claims it&#x27;s listening to your microphone and reading your contacts. The gap between what&#x27;s written and reality is really ridiculous.<p>There&#x27;s a discussion to be had around Google&#x27;s ability to update software on our phones without our control, absolutely. But that&#x27;s not what this article is doing, and wont lead the majority to that topic. This article is like reading a conspiracy website, it&#x27;s a flashy headline with a kernel of truth, but just leads to dangerous behavior, like all the people installing stub apks from GitHub to keep this from installing.
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theandrewbailey2 个月前
This makes me glad that when I reflashed my phone a few weeks ago, I left out Google Play.
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hnpolicestate2 个月前
Even more bizarre. I have an unrooted Android phone with the Safetycore all and I was able to uninstall it. Not the uninstall update either. The whole app. Prob will keep reinstalling?
hulitu2 个月前
&gt; Google&#x27;s Unannounced Update Scans All Your Photos<p>They don&#x27;t release security updates, but updates to scan your fotos are ok.
atum472 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40967371">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=40967371</a>
lofaszvanitt2 个月前
This is article feels like it was authored by an anteater.
blackeyeblitzar2 个月前
How do we opt out
atypeoferror2 个月前
Is it just me, or is this outrage super amusing given the fact that for a long time you could search through you Google Photos (on Android, iOS or web) for e.g. “baby” and get a bunch of hits?