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Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

729 点作者 OuterVale3 个月前

69 条评论

lordofgibbons3 个月前
The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries&#x2F;frameworks, languages, ai&#x2F;ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers.<p>I&#x27;m really hoping for an alternative. I&#x27;m always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.
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das_keyboard3 个月前
Looking at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rvlt.gg&#x2F;discover&#x2F;servers" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rvlt.gg&#x2F;discover&#x2F;servers</a> it seems that all reasonably active servers are either turkish[0] or anime related.<p>[0]: Turkey banned Discord in 2024: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;turkey-blocks-instant-messaging-platform-discord-2024-10-09&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;turkey-blocks-instant-mes...</a>
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notepad0x903 个月前
I think I&#x27;m using every chat platform that has wide adaption in tech circles. The one trend I&#x27;m seeing is that most of us just use the platform random communities insist on us using, we don&#x27;t use them out of preference. And those communities choose the platforms because of the support they&#x27;re getting from companies like discord and the amount of work needed to moderate and administer the community under the platform. My point being: community admins are the real consumers of these products, not normal users.<p>If I need support with an open source library of some sort, I don&#x27;t mind using IRC , MS Teams or anything in between. But if I have to run a community, I will chose whatever platform requires the least effort while integrating well into all my administrative and devops workflows.<p>If I could speculate a bit, I think discord webhooks and bot api has helped it succeed a lot. But things can be improved upon. Making it dead-easy to integrate into github actions, alert&#x2F;monitoring platforms,etc.. is a huge selling point. It should be easier to use a platform like this to send notifications than with email. And it should have at minimum one &quot;bridge&quot; type integration that is natively supported: for email! It&#x27;s really mind-blowing to me with M365, how I have to switch between teams and outlook. How come they haven&#x27;t figured out how to get and respond to emails from within teams? (the reverse is possible but doesn&#x27;t work well).
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openscript3 个月前
I&#x27;ve accidentally typed <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;revolut.chat&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;revolut.chat&#x2F;</a> instead <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;revolt.chat&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;revolt.chat&#x2F;</a>. Apparently I wasn&#x27;t the first one...
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gibibit3 个月前
Doesn&#x27;t anyone else miss the old days of forums like PHPBB and VBulletin for collaboration?<p>They had everything I needed, and nothing I didn&#x27;t. Easily searched by Google. Actual pagination instead of stupid endless scrolling.<p>All the new forums are going to Discord (synchronous) or Discourse (asynchronous) which I find to be much less useful.
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carlgreene3 个月前
Can we stop building communities in non-indexable locations? The death of forums and hence “google-ability” for problems and solutions is so depressing. The UX is worse in every way
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Mashimo3 个月前
The github <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;revoltchat">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;revoltchat</a>
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peterjaap3 个月前
So you have the chance to redesign Discord and you decide to stick with the unicorn-puking emoji-littered eye-scorching UX&#x2F;UI garbage that Discord is? Interesting.
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anonzzzies2 个月前
The nicest thing about Discord is that there are so many servers for every topic you can imagine; the rather sad thing is that when a server goes away, all that valuable content is gone. It should really stop companies from using it <i>or</i> make sure there is a bot offloading&#x2F;indexing the content.
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landsman3 个月前
Importat is funding for these projects. Plenty of them start as open source with donations which can led to frustration and burnout of developers.
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threesevenths3 个月前
A British company making a chat app. What’s the privacy policy? 5 eyes first then you?
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RobotToaster3 个月前
The self hosting instructions aren&#x27;t that friendly imo.
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mid-kid3 个月前
Is this still centralized? Or can you self-host without needing a separate client instance for each host?
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_mitterpach3 个月前
Note that there have been rumours about Discord preparing to go public, I reckon this might be made in preparation for it. I think it is a wise move to offer an alternative.<p>The design is very similar to Discord, could this possibly even go to a copyright breach or is the bar for that set too high?
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unification_fan3 个月前
Pretty cool. I just wish it had its own identity and didn&#x27;t look like Walmart Discord.
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mogoh3 个月前
So, how does it compares to matrix&#x2F;element?
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dabeeeenster3 个月前
The homepage has no explanation of where the server is in all this? Github page doesnt help either?! Where is my data stored?
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esafak3 个月前
It&#x27;s been in development for five years. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;revoltchat&#x2F;backend&#x2F;tags?after=0.2.6">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;revoltchat&#x2F;backend&#x2F;tags?after=0.2.6</a>
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snvzz3 个月前
I cannot find anything on the website about Revolt&#x27;s end to end encryption story.<p>This doesn&#x27;t give me much confidence.
Palmik3 个月前
Why don&#x27;t you allow OAuth &#x2F; social login via Google, GitHub and yes, even Discord? Seems like it would make adoption much easier.
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seanvelasco3 个月前
i wish they picked a more unique name. to me, it just seems like they&#x27;re a copycat by picking a name that&#x27;s a synonym - or at least of the same nature - of the word &quot;Discord&quot;<p>same with the streaming platforms Twitch and Kick<p>looking at their UI, it&#x27;s the exact same UI as Discord. no improvements while also inheriting the same flaws that make using Discord neurotic
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adiadd3 个月前
It&#x27;s tough to compete in a market like social networks, you need mass adoption for high value. Although this looks cool, I&#x27;m interested to see how it differs specifically to provide more value than Discord already does (ton of people, various servers, great integrations, etc.)
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aragilar3 个月前
It&#x27;s unclear if voice&#x2F;video are supported or not?
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didip3 个月前
I am surprised that it is written in Rust. Bi-directional long live connections don&#x27;t require Rust&#x27;s raw horsepower. Maybe it&#x27;s needed for audio&#x2F;video streaming?<p>Is the API discord compatible? That&#x27;s basically necessary for adoption.
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jonstaab3 个月前
I&#x27;m also building a FOSS Discord alternative, but this one&#x27;s based on nostr: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;flotilla.social" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;flotilla.social</a>
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CivBase3 个月前
I use Discord for three things: text chat, voice chat, and screen sharing. Looks like screen sharing isn&#x27;t supported yet, but it&#x27;s on the roadmap at least[1].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;orgs&#x2F;revoltchat&#x2F;projects&#x2F;6&#x2F;views&#x2F;4?pane=issue&amp;itemId=57976152&amp;issue=revoltchat%7Cbackend%7C313">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;orgs&#x2F;revoltchat&#x2F;projects&#x2F;6&#x2F;views&#x2F;4?pane=i...</a>
maelito3 个月前
How does it compare to Element ?
jonathantf23 个月前
Interestingly (and sadly) the largest deployment of this was probably on Andrew Tate&#x27;s grift course website thing, see the dev&#x27;s blog: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;insrt.uk&#x2F;post&#x2F;andrew-tate-stealing-software-revolt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;insrt.uk&#x2F;post&#x2F;andrew-tate-stealing-software-revolt</a>
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concerndc1tizen3 个月前
What do people find upsetting about Discord? It&#x27;s free, there&#x27;s no ads, it&#x27;s reliable, it has many established communities, it&#x27;s cross-platform and even works in the browser, supports voice chat and screen sharing.<p>What more could you ask for? Or, are you asking for too much?<p>What I mean is: What innovative functionality is missing to such a degree, that if it was introduces, would make people abandon Discord?
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dmos623 个月前
I&#x27;ve recently heard it said that there&#x27;s a better alternative to Discord called Gilded, but no reasons were provided. Anyone has insights?
LuciOfStars3 个月前
I would move to Revolt in a heartbeat, if it had a PluralKit equivalent. Currently the only thing keeping me trapped on Discord.
korse3 个月前
The problem with Discord is that it doesn&#x27;t allow for servers in the same way a protocol like IRC does. Some commenters have alluded to this.<p>From a quick glance, revolt.chat doesn&#x27;t allow for server creation either. Am I mistaken or is this pretty much a joke (Discord replacement with the only real benefit being a &#x27;trust us bro, we&#x27;re European&#x27; sort of promise to not do bad things)?
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nop_slide3 个月前
I don&#x27;t see anything about funding&#x2F;pricing, how is this going to stick around for the long term?
Farbklex2 个月前
It looks like this is still a closed platform, isn&#x27;t it?<p>Is there a way to just browse the chat of a public server without signing up? I would like to have a more open, low friction, internet searchable alternative to Discord. Revolt doesn&#x27;t take it far enough.
92834092323 个月前
Discord alternatives have a hard time because of network effects. Does revolt has a bridge to Discord?
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Apocryphon3 个月前
Nice and I&#x27;ll try it out, but I can&#x27;t help but to wonder what about all of the open-source Slack alternatives like Ferdi, Franz, Rambox, etc. Is it just because Slack is just no longer in vogue that there&#x27;s a market for this?
cedws3 个月前
Is it built on Matrix?<p>I used Riot (now Element) back in the day, but like others have said in this thread, without a network effect these things don&#x27;t really take off. I haven&#x27;t heard of anyone using Element for years now.
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m00dy3 个月前
They will have a better stack than Discord once they migrate to Tauri.
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colesantiago3 个月前
Donation page to Revolt before Discord succumbs to platform decay or (enshittification) after being owned by Wall Street soon.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.revolt.chat&#x2F;notes&#x2F;project&#x2F;financial-support&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.revolt.chat&#x2F;notes&#x2F;project&#x2F;financial-support&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ko-fi.com&#x2F;insertish" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ko-fi.com&#x2F;insertish</a>
butz3 个月前
Why even build an app? This app should&#x27;ve been a website. Better pester browser developers to implement &quot;Add to desktop&quot; feature.
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Bengalilol3 个月前
3&#x27;000+ lines of code &lt;- this seems pretty low
Bluescreenbuddy3 个月前
Truly built with us in mind....Until they get so big someone with a fat check approaches them and then we just have another Discord.
joshdavham3 个月前
Just a bit of critical feedback: the landing page isn’t responsive to a horizontally rotated iPad. Otherwise, awesome project!
galaxyLogic3 个月前
Lots of comments on Discord here, but is anybody saying this new service &quot;Revolt&quot; is better than Discord?
mclanett3 个月前
I&#x27;m at a total loss why social chat boards want to have the most antisocial names.
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nottorp3 个月前
This is as centralized as Discord right? No running your own server, should you choose to.
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tonymet3 个月前
Discords performance is unmatched. I hope that’s one of their goals as well
elif3 个月前
There&#x27;s a massive shady component of discord inherent to how access and security are at the whim of ar arbitrary discord mods. All manner of illegal activity thrives behind custom access control.<p>The most notable instance in media is the leaking of classified materials, the creation of swatting&#x2F;ddos communities which gave us the &#x27;BigBalls&#x27; hacker employed by doge,<p>But more sickeningly, recently it allowed this doctor to successfully target countless children, including convincing a 13 year old girl to hang herself in a live discord call. [0]<p>There is a problem with too much protection of freedom and secrecy.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;GgfGhzkq8FE?si=nFahQlTUTsY5WEuI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;GgfGhzkq8FE?si=nFahQlTUTsY5WEuI</a><p>I guess my point is, do we as a society want our children&#x27;s Roblox communities to share a platform with virtually every cyber criminal, behind security and secrecy measures completely at the will of arbitrary discord owners?<p>EDIT: moved this to a global comment as it was too tangential to where I originally replied
rmm3 个月前
Still waiting for a new web replacement for phpbb
jaggs3 个月前
Really nice. Perfectly timed for enshitification, and love that it&#x27;s open source. Now just need some sort of federation and it&#x27;s good to go. And choosing to go with an established UI will make adoption that much easier when TSHTF.<p>[just had a longer look around. Is this a Russian project?]
bryanhogan3 个月前
Love to see this! Worried about Discord&#x27;s future, with its monopole position greater enshittification is definitely a real risk.<p>Would also love to see some solution to Discord&#x27;s problem of being an information black hole here as well.
nestoras_design3 个月前
Friendly UI. Looking good!
Tepix3 个月前
Putting your data in a centralized instance may eventually just lead to enshittification and&#x2F;or data loss.<p>Why not use a federated group discussion such as Lemmy? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lemmy_(social_network)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lemmy_(social_network)</a>
weberer3 个月前
&gt;To ensure users stay safe on the platform, we explicitly disallow:<p>&gt;Misinformation &amp; Conspiracy Theories<p>&gt;Spreading false or misleading information that can cause harm to individuals or society is prohibited. This includes conspiracy theories that have been debunked or lack credible evidence.<p>Why? That sounds so dumb to waste resources policing it.
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shmerl3 个月前
Is it using Matrix? And if not, why the need for another protocol?
OrangeMusic2 个月前
So... it&#x27;s not based on Matrix? So yet another non standard&#x2F;non interoperable protocol? Why?!
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TZubiri3 个月前
Reminder that discord is an app for kids. Is your open source code and volunteer run project going to keep kids safe? Is it an advantage that the comms protocols are open and everyone can build bots? Or a disadvantage for this usecase?<p>Also, how is it an alternative for Discord if it&#x27;s in a whole different jurisdiction?
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no_oneimportant3 个月前
hmmm
croisillon3 个月前
haha i had to laugh at the language selectors:<p><pre><code> {flag:uk} English (traditional) {flag:us} English (simplified)</code></pre>
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Legion3 个月前
Pushing what used to occur on web forums into Discord chats has been a net loss for the Internet.
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hampus3 个月前
Seeing as this is closely related to [1], which I also commented on, and in the hopes that someone finds this useful regarding Discord&#x27;s ownership of your data (where your messages remain even if you delete your account):<p>If you&#x27;d like to delete your Discord messages en masse, I made an open-source tool for that [2]. It leverages a fairly undocumented process using your Discord data package, providing a UI to explore it and choose what to export. The tool gives you step-by-step instructions and a CSV file that Discord expects when you contact their privacy team. It works across all channels in both servers and DMs, even those you no longer have access to.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43276504">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43276504</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discorch.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discorch.org</a>
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sitkack3 个月前
Every time I see one of these projects, I wince because 2&#x2F;3 of the time the backend is in PHP (no offense). The backend is in a typesafe, memory safe language!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;revoltchat&#x2F;backend">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;revoltchat&#x2F;backend</a>
fareesh3 个月前
[edit] seems like it&#x27;s federated
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CleanCoder3 个月前
The offering in its current form (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;zcmEOhr.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;zcmEOhr.png</a>) does not feel truly communal.
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juped3 个月前
I like a good ejabberd fork!<p>edit: oh, this isn&#x27;t an ejabberd fork. Why didn&#x27;t they just fork ejabberd like normal people? Seriously, _rust_?
stevetron3 个月前
Discord seems to be going the way of Skype: deprecating their support for Windows 7, in favor of a newer OS offering from Microsoft which harvests data in the background under the feeble guise of telemetry. Granted there is telelmetry in Windows 7, but you can disable it in Windows 7 and not worry obout it being over-ridden the next day, or even the same day, with some forced update.
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vr463 个月前
How is open-source supposed to compete without access to Apple&#x27;s certificates? If you are constantly forced to override the warnings about unsigned software, assuming your system even allows you in the first place, how much friction before less technical users give up?<p>Code signing is good, I like it, I approve, but it is a big obstacle for me personally and others who cannot afford Apple Developer Credentials.
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voidUpdate3 个月前
&gt; Revolt is the chat app that’s truly built with you in mind.<p>Is this meant to be a unique selling point? All of the features also exist in discord.<p>Also, &quot;Bots some for extra spice&quot;. Might need a text review
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high_na_euv3 个月前
I hope the communities&#x2F;servers arent self-hosted because that would be shot in the knee, cuz this is security issue<p>TeamSpeak and Ventrilo were like that
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