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More thoughts on the 1670 modem's weird noises

76 点作者 kencausey2 个月前

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pjdesno2 个月前
I&#x27;m surprised that you could get a modem pair to connect with a plain wire. An old dial telephone (e.g. a 500 set) was an entirely passive device, relying on power from the central office end of the wire. The carbon mic didn&#x27;t need an amplifier - it&#x27;s just a resistor, with resistance varying according to sound pressure; a transformer subtracted out the mic from the combined signal and sent the difference to the speaker.<p>I did a quick search on 1670 schematics and came up with very little. Note however that several sources identify the USR101 chip as a ROM - that&#x27;s clearly not the case, as a schematic shows no address or data bus, and you can see a line from the coupling transformer to an RC network and several pins on the device. It&#x27;s almost certainly the analog front end and the modulator&#x2F;demodulator.<p>If you could find a datasheet for that device you&#x27;d probably be able to figure out how the whole thing works, but I&#x27;m guessing those were never available to the public and have been lost to the mists of time.
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pjdesno2 个月前
It might be trying to detect dial tone, then hanging up and trying again after a second or so - the click would be the mechanical relay you see in the schematic. (note that standard phone lines don&#x27;t send dial tone until they detect an off-hook condition, i.e. current flowing down the line. Even then, older exchanges had a limited number of &quot;dialers&quot;, and wouldn&#x27;t send dial tone until one had been connected to the line)
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hinkley2 个月前
Sounds a bit like constructive interference between two sound sources that are almost the same frequency but not.<p>Or RC “ringing”. That click stopping the sound makes me curious to see a plot of bytes per second sent and received. Is the modem resetting itself every time it clicks and introducing a small pause or data loss? Or is it completely divorced from the sound.<p>These modems don’t have fans built in right? If you isolate the speaker does it still make the noise?
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NotYourLawyer2 个月前
Sounds like it could be a mechanical relay clicking. Is it actually coming from the speaker?
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cenobyte2 个月前
Sounds like your Vic 20 and&#x2F;or power supply isn&#x27;t shielded very well and its making your speakers do weird things.
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hermitdev2 个月前
A thought: maybe the pulse could be some sort of link status probing? e.g. &quot;is this thing plugged in?&quot;
vidarh2 个月前
You know you&#x27;re an are old nerd when you see 1670 and immediately think VIC-20. I never even owned a 1670 - just lusted over them in magazines.
tbotjenkins2 个月前
Sounds similar but very faint to an Atari 800 tape loader (400 baud) tiny data packets with gaps for demarcation.
cluckindan2 个月前
Testing for echo? Impedance calibration?