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Lynx is the oldest web browser still being maintained

229 点作者 jahnu大约 2 个月前
Kudos to the folks keeping it running.<p>https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lynx_(web_browser)

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andai大约 2 个月前
Many moons ago I was on a constrained internet connection -- I set up a repeater by hanging an old phone over my curtains so it could catch Wifi from the cafe across and connected to the phone&#x27;s internet over bluetooth.<p>I had like 2KB&#x2F;s.<p>This made most of the internet unusable, but it turns out the parts I care about are text. So I just browsed it through a text browser.<p>This didn&#x27;t really work either, because it turns out web protocols don&#x27;t work very well over 2KB&#x2F;s.<p>So I browsed the internet by connecting to a $1 VPS (very fast internet!) over Mosh (which is like SSH, but more efficient and resilient). So that way, it would only send the actual bytes of text to me.<p>I mostly browsed HN and the linked articles at that point.<p>The browser that rendered HN the best in those days was w3m. I remember it had indentation and even mouse &#x2F; scrolling support. I tried lynx too and it was good too, but I went with w3m in the end.<p>I see w3m hasn&#x27;t been updated in 15 years, but it&#x27;s probably still better for reading HN, whose UI hasn&#x27;t changed for longer than that! I will have to give them both a spin :)
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kaiwen1大约 2 个月前
I still used Lynx as my default browser while working on ships until 2020. Satellite internet connections at sea were slow and very expensive which made Lynx a good choice. But it turned out that the text-based, distraction-free browsing could be a better experience than the same site in a modern browser. And a few sites still serve text versions, like text.npr.org. I liked Lynx enough that I would still use it back on land until the habit faded.
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esotericwarfare大约 2 个月前
You can render JS only websites using chromium headless like this:<p>chromium --headless example.com --disable-gpu --run-all-compositor-stages-before-draw --dump-dom --virtual-time-budget=10000 --window-size=800,600 | sed &quot;s|&lt;head&gt;|&lt;head&gt;&lt;base href=example.com&gt;|g&quot; | lynx -stdin
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sylware大约 2 个月前
Proud user of noscript&#x2F;basic (x)html browsers here.<p>Lynx and links (and I wanted to _code_ my own using netsurf libraries).<p>Restoring noscript&#x2F;basic (x)html will only happen with hardcore regulation (or &quot;tarif&quot;&#x2F;&quot;gigantic fines&quot;... same same...).<p>This is critical for the web, since that makes developing real-life alternative browsers a reasonable task from many pertinent perspectives.<p>The current technical landscape of the web is a disaster: a cartel of 2.5 absurdely and grotesquely gigantic web engines written in the most complex computer language out there which requires a compiler on the same complexity level... and there are only 2 of them from roughly from the same cartel&#x2F;mob.<p>It seems that technical interop of the web with a very simple standard, stable in time and good enough to do the job is a &#x27;competitive&#x27; issue of the small vs the big and should be handle by regulating administrations.<p>Remember, tons of web sites were noscript&#x2F;basic (x)html compatible and doing a more than enough good job already... without insane technical dependencies...
donatj大约 2 个月前
Very early in my Linux days in the early 2000s I was bound and determined to learn how to use Lynx as I thought the skill would be a necessity for maintaining servers. Being able to look up issues online and what not.<p>Little did I realize that 99% of the time I would be SSHed in from a full desktop with a standard browser, and Lynx has just been kind of a fun novelty for me.
susam大约 2 个月前
It is unfortunate that modern web development has led to websites so complex that they either break entirely or look terrible in text-based browsers like Lynx. Take Mastodon, for example:<p><pre><code> $ lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mastodon.social&#x2F; […] To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform. </code></pre> The C2 Wiki does not load either:<p><pre><code> $ lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.c2.com&#x2F; […] javascript required to view this site why </code></pre> To their credit, at least they use the &lt;noscript&gt; tag to display the above notices. Some websites don&#x27;t even bother with that. But there are many old school websites that still load fine to varying degrees:<p><pre><code> lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;danluu.com&#x2F; # Mostly okay but some needed spaces missing lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F; # Okay, but a large wall of links on top lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;irreal.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F; # Renders fine lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;libera.chat&#x2F; # Mostly fine lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F; # Of course! lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sachachua.com&#x2F; # Mostly fine lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shkspr.mobi&#x2F; # Renders really well lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;susam.net&#x2F; # Disclosure: This is mine lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;norvig.com&#x2F; # A classic! lynx https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nullprogram.com&#x2F; # Also pretty good </code></pre> If you have more examples, please comment, and I&#x27;ll add them to this list in the two hour edit window I have.<p>While JavaScript has its place, I believe that websites that focus on delivering primarily text content could prioritise working well in TUI browsers. Sometimes testing it with text-based browsers may even show fundamental issues with your HTML. For example, several times, I&#x27;ve seen that multiple navigation links next to each other have no whitespace between them. The links may appear like this:<p><pre><code> HomeBlogRSSAboutCodebergMastodon </code></pre> Or, in a list of articles, dates and titles may appear jammed together:<p><pre><code> 14 Mar 2025The Lost Art of Dual Booting 15 Mar 2025Some Forgotten Features of Gopher 16 Mar 2025My Favourite DOS Games </code></pre> The missing spaces aren&#x27;t obvious in a graphical browser due to the CSS styling hiding the issue, but in a text-based one, the issue becomes apparent. The number of text-based web users may be shrinking, but there are some of us who still browse the web using tools like lynx, w3m, and M-x eww, at least occasionally.
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febeling大约 2 个月前
I miss websites that look like lynx&#x27;s: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lynx.browser.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lynx.browser.org&#x2F;</a>
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vogelke大约 2 个月前
I use it for two things:<p>* saving webpages as text with the links nicely organized at the bottom, and<p>* calling it from mutt (MUA) to display HTML parts of mail messages.<p>It works great and it&#x27;s consistent.
atribecalledqst大约 2 个月前
Years ago (like 2013), I had an actual use case for lynx, which was that I was staying at a hotel long-term and I couldn&#x27;t access the Wi-Fi landing page from my browser for some reason. But I could hit it from lynx, so I&#x27;d just log in from there every day.<p>Never had to do that since, but it sure saved my ass back then...
Duanemclemore大约 2 个月前
I&#x27;m old enough to remember showing up to a new HS on a college campus in 1996 and our computer lab being on VAX.<p>We had official school pages on gopher (!!!) and the www browser was lynx.<p>To this day I install it on every new machine I get, especially laptops. Just in case I have to find some information on almost zero bandwidth. I don&#x27;t recall having to use it, maybe once or twice in 25 years max.<p>But it&#x27;s there if I need it.
noufalibrahim大约 2 个月前
My first browser. There was another one called links which would display graphics inside the terminal.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Links_(web_browser)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Links_(web_browser)</a>
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nbenitezl大约 2 个月前
Oh, this brings back memories of my first steps with Gentoo linux, when I failed at setting up the display (XFree86 back then) or configure it properly, I remember browsing Gentoo wiki pages with Lynx to bring it back.
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angled大约 2 个月前
Lynx was great, but w3m + gpm for mouse input + fb for graphics was a revelation.
seoulbigchris大约 2 个月前
When I first was exposed to Lynx, I was also working on a project using the Lynx realtime Posix OS. To my knowledge, the two aren&#x27;t related other than by name. I checked a couple of years ago, Lynx OS still exists but under a different name.
miki123211大约 2 个月前
I wish there was a Lynx-like (or, even better, Edbrowse-like) web browser, but powered by something like headless Chromium underneath.<p>This way, you could have an extremely low-resource user terminal and&#x2F;or a laptop on an extremely constrained connection, and still be able to use a modern web by connecting to a more powerful server.<p>You could even share such servers between users. Because people aren&#x27;t all using the web at the same time, you could actually utilize that server capacity a lot more than you can do with laptops.<p>It would be even better integrated with an LLM (especially with extremely slow &#x2F; unreliable &#x2F; high latency connections).
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_fat_santa大约 2 个月前
Just tried accessing my personal website[1] with Lynx and it works pretty well. Granted Lynx is pretty crumb some compared to other browsers but like other commenters have said, it&#x27;s a good tool to have in events where you need to access a particular website and have next to no internet connection.<p>EDIT: One thing I am curious about, is there documentation on how to make one&#x27;s website &quot;lynx friendly&quot;. Going through my website it&#x27;s pretty clean but there are a few areas (like my recipes) that could use adjustment.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sunny.gg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sunny.gg</a>
john-tells-all大约 2 个月前
As a web developer, everything is in the editor. A super-fast way to preview my web page changes is:<p><pre><code> lynx --dump localhost:8000&#x2F;mypage.html </code></pre> Put that in a loop. My server or frontend updates appear <i>immediately</i> and I don&#x27;t have to mess with triggering an external browser or faffing about. Wonderful tool!
486sx33大约 2 个月前
Like most people my age, my first Internet experience at home was with lynx on a Unix shell. We shared credentials for an account at the school board that we scored from a teachers aid. It was sweet to dial into the school board (same numbers all the teachers used!) and surf around in text only lynx.
kotaKat大约 2 个月前
For a while I was using <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;habilis.net&#x2F;lynxlet&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;habilis.net&#x2F;lynxlet&#x2F;</a> in MacOS to get Lynx as a &#x27;native&#x27; browser. It was a nifty wrapper. Sadly lost to time... and 32-bit only. :(
gloosx大约 2 个月前
A browser which you can run inside your Vim! Use it all the time in a separate tab for reading compatible websites, including HN and some documentation, very handy!<p>Always dreamed about Javascript engine which could render to cli though....
1vuio0pswjnm7大约 2 个月前
Been using a text-only browser daily for over thirty years now. In the early to mid 90&#x27;s I used Lynx. For me, it is the worst of all the text-only browsers I have tried. I would never go back to using it.
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sireat大约 2 个月前
I remember a friend at UCLA showed me this fancy schmatcy new Mosaic browser circa 1994 or so.<p>I said sure that looks nice, but why would I need this, when I have Lynx...plus Pine for newsgroups and e-mail.
ngneer大约 2 个月前
Still use it in the terminal when debugging cloud applications. KUTGW!
boothby大约 2 个月前
Due to zoom&#x27;s resource-intensity and my non-work laptop&#x27;s dire lack of resources, I find myself using Lynx with some regularity today. I absolutely love it. Thanks, Lynx devs!
ChrisArchitect大约 2 个月前
Recent discussion:<p><i>Lynx Browser: The Land That Time Revived (2022)</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43119238">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43119238</a>
anonzzzies大约 2 个月前
I cannot wait until vision llms are cheap and fast enough (ran locally of course) to just browse everything with, then I can return to browsing with lynx, or rather, emacs.
rich_sasha大约 2 个月前
How usable is Lynx for modern Internet?<p>I would love a browser I can operate within tmux, but how does it stack against the modern javascript-laden ecosystem?
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camel-cdr大约 2 个月前
I use thr shell alias &quot;?&quot; for websearch with lynx. So &quot;$ ? search term&quot;
SweetSoftPillow大约 2 个月前
Can we run it in Chrome?
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anthk大约 2 个月前
I still use it with:<p>gopher:&#x2F;&#x2F;hngopher.com (for actual HN I use Links)<p>gopher:&#x2F;&#x2F;magical.fish (Huge portal)<p>gopher:&#x2F;&#x2F;tilde.pink&#x2F;1&#x2F;~bencollver&#x2F;ia (Internet Archive)<p>gopher:&#x2F;&#x2F;sdf.org (Tech blogs and code mainly)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;neuters.de" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;neuters.de</a> (news)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.xkcd.com</a> and a external viewer
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