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Some notes on Grafana Loki's new "structured metadata"

117 点作者 valyala2 个月前

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ohgr2 个月前
Not much I agree with in this article. Seems to be based on little operational experience with the product, particular indicated by a couple of major mistakes and assumptions in the article (compacting does happen, didn&#x27;t read the manual about deployment configurations clearly).<p>Loki has its idiosyncrasies but they are there for a good reason. Anyone who has sat there waiting hours for a Kibana or Splunk query to run to get some information out will know what I&#x27;d referring to. You don&#x27;t dragnet your entire log stream unless your logs are terrible, which needs to be fixed, or you don&#x27;t know when something happened, which needs fixing. I watch many people run queries that scan terabytes of data with gay abandon on a regular basis on older platforms and still never get what they need out.<p>The structured metadata distinction is important because when you do a query against that you are not using an index, just parsed out data. That means explicitly you&#x27;re not filtering, you&#x27;re scanning and that is expensive.<p>If you have a problem with finding things, then it&#x27;s not the logging engine, it&#x27;s the logs!
DeathArrow2 个月前
Did someone use both Grafana Loki and Kibana? Does it have any advantages over Kibana? I am mostly interested in resource usage and versatility of filtering.<p>In Kibana, if something is there I will find it with ease and it doesn&#x27;t take a lot of time to investigate issues in a microservice based application. It is also quite fast.
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ptman2 个月前
@valyala , as others have noted, you are CEO of VictoriaMetrics and have written (most of?) VictoriaLogs. How is VictoriaLogs coming along? This is an older blog post.
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jiveturkey2 个月前
(2024)<p>important because the title includes _new_
kbouck2 个月前
It&#x27;s also not ideal to have a different query language for different Grafana datastores (LogQL, PromQL, TraceQL). Are there any plans on making a unified Grafana query language?
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slekker2 个月前
A disclaimer is that OP is CEO of another company in the same sector
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xyz-x2 个月前
Does anyone have experience using Apache Iceberg, Hudi or DeltaLake for storing logs instead of Loki?
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