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Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

172 点作者 vinnyglennon2 个月前

19 条评论

yatopifo2 个月前
That makes perfect sense. It puzzles me why supporters of the current US regime think Canada won’t resist the US. Be it a trade war or a military invasion, Canada will make the cost so great that it may eliminate the US from the world arena. Canada has been cornered and has nothing to lose at this point.
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FredPret2 个月前
I&#x27;ve seen two apocalyptic North American scenarios in fiction, and have previously dismissed both as ridiculous.<p>1. In the Fallout universe, the USA annexes Canada<p>2. In at least two Neal Stephenson novels (Snowcrash and Termination Shock), the USA has collapsed.<p>I&#x27;ve never before thought that either of these would have a semi-realistic path to actually happening.
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andy_ppp2 个月前
I’m surprised all the countries the US is trying to bully aren’t considering moving to the Euro as the reserve currency (even China might go along with this). It would be so damaging for the US they might actually understand they have been benefiting from a win-win situation since the end of the Second World War.
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Brusco_RF2 个月前
What a lot of commenters cheering this headline might not know is that there is only one single internal road connecting east and west canada which regularly closes. Most commercial routes go through the US. Don&#x27;t believe me? Route Ottawa to Vancouver in google maps.<p>This move would amount to throwing rocks from a glass house.
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kps2 个月前
Should also toll the ‘shortcut’ between Detroit and Buffalo for foreign high-axle-weight vehicles like transport trucks and maybe some electric cars.
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sriram_malhar2 个月前
It seems everyone is part of the &quot;Not American Treaty Organization&quot;.
hypeatei2 个月前
I don&#x27;t understand any of the justifications for a trade war with Canada. IIRC, Trump was fudging numbers by only including the &quot;goods&quot; part of &quot;goods &amp; services&quot; so the deficit looked worse than it actually was (assuming a deficit is even bad in the first place)<p>It&#x27;s also bewildering that Trump literally negotiated a trade deal in his first term with Mexico and Canada but is now saying we&#x27;re getting screwed? Is this the &quot;art of the deal&quot; he always talks about?
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vkou2 个月前
It&#x27;s been considered, but it&#x27;s not going to help much. A <i>tiny</i> percentage of Alaska&#x27;s goods come through BC.<p>Instead, alternative markets and surcharges for potash, minerals, energy, counter tariffs and bans of American goods, expanding interprovincial trade, bans on government procurement from the US, bans on American propaganda and media should be sufficient. And re-armament.<p>Given that it&#x27;s clear that America cannot ever again be trusted, (electing Trump once was an accident, twice is actively malicious), and given that it&#x27;s likely compromised by Russia, it should be considered what it is - a dangerous, unstable, suicidal foreign adversary. A kind of North Korea, but with nuclear weapons.
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latentcall2 个月前
Guess I’ll be in the trenches and have someone from Ottawa drop a grenade on me from a drone.
Suppafly2 个月前
I&#x27;m kinda surprised they haven&#x27;t been doing this all along, or at least something to recover revenue from US folks using their roads to travel between the US but not contributing much to the economy in between.
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wdr12 个月前
&gt; The government of British Columbia filed legislation Thursday that would permit the province to levy tolls on vehicles between the Lower 48 and Alaska.<p>It was nice of them to exclude Hawaii.
barbazoo2 个月前
&gt; The bill does not automatically impose fees on vehicles, but it “just gives BC the tools to do so down the road if Trump continues to escalate his threats towards BC and Canada,” according to a statement from the provincial Ministry of Transportation and Transit.
phkahler2 个月前
Totally off topic, but after reading some comments here I got curious and went to Google and typed &quot;population&quot; and autocomplete offered &quot;of Canada&quot; with an answer of 40.1 Million already there. Of course that&#x27;s what I was going to type, but but but... I&#x27;m in the U.S. so there&#x27;s no reason to know what country I was going to look for unless Google (or this MS browser) knew I was just reading this in another tab. Really kind of creepy.
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giardini2 个月前
Given the numerous crazy possible pasts, presents, futures and conspiracies spoken of in this conversation alone, should any <i>one</i> of the potential outcomes vented here (they <i>do</i> seem to be ventings, indeed of a gaseous nature) should come true I will be amazed. Reminds me of an old joke...<p>Q. What is time for? &quot;Time is nature&#x27;s way to keep everything from happening all at once&quot;.<p>Attributed to John Archibald Wheeler.<p>Yet reading here, one might conclude that all things bad are occurring as we speak!
buyucu2 个月前
this is a no-brainer right? if you play stupid games, then you win stupid prizes. british columbia has every right to do this.
mindslight2 个月前
How small-minded Trumpism is, just frustrated lashing out at things they refuse to understand.<p>Canada has been so close to the US we would <i>lovingly</i> joke about it being &quot;the 51st state&quot;. Canada&#x27;s cities are all pressed up against the US border precisely because it&#x27;s so tightly economically integrated with the US. We share the world&#x27;s longest undefended &quot;border&quot; for a reason.<p>The small minded neofascists think that someone being part of their sphere of influence must mean they can shit on them, tell them it&#x27;s caviar, and they&#x27;ll lap it up and come back for more. It&#x27;s like they can&#x27;t see that Canada (along with most of the rest of the world) was <i>already strongly aligned with the US</i>, in favor of some stupid imagined written on paper &quot;ownership&quot; direct-command relationship. They really can&#x27;t get past the two bits in front of them and see larger constructive situations, <i>at all</i>.<p>(I&#x27;m of course talking about all the useful idiots cheering this on, and enabling it by not impeaching. The Manchurian Candidate himself is just following the directions of Russia&#x2F;China supplied by his handlers directly into his cancerous ego.)
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rgrieselhuber2 个月前
Alaska is USA
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gadflyinyoureye2 个月前
Well if Trump is looking for a reason to invade, he’ll have one he can promote. I don’t agree with it it, but he can say, “they’re cutting us off from our people!” Then he’ll invade BC to form a contiguous border to all our territories.<p>Hell based on the representatives going to DC to discuss making Alberta a state, he’ll probably gin up even more support.
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cynicalsecurity2 个月前
This dynamic isn’t really good. I understand Canada didn’t start it, but I really don’t like these dynamics.
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