Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

&gt; Similarly, Rubino says web apps in Firefox will not use a minimal browser frame and will continue to show a main toolbar with address bar, extensions, bookmarks...<p>Why is this so hard to understand? Why are they so against just making it work like it&#x27;s supposed to? PWAs are actively useful and great and this is just frustrating.

I’m not sure what Mozilla has been doing the last ten years but I’m fairly certain it has little to do with what users want.<p>I am thoroughly finished with them as an organization; hopefully they represent the end of an ugly era, which to my recollection began in about 2013. I will not mourn their inevitable slide into complete irrelevance and financial insolvency.

Every time Mozilla is on here people go crazy.<p>And they wrote their comment using Chrome or some skin. Which they have used for a decade. Because the button on the left seemed off on Firefox compared to Chrome (always something). So fuck Firefox.<p>On hacker news.<p>Crazy.

I have been installing some PWAs lately at work and... I love them. They have been replacing the need for electron and they also feel integrated with the OS.<p>In chrome, there is always a button to &quot;bring back&quot; the app from pwa into a browser tab (really nice). There is the option to open links directly in the pwa, you can access your extension from a small icon. I read that on the specs there might be an option to keep tabs around, for things like notion where your might need tabs (that would be really cool).<p>Overall, I&#x27;m impressed positively. Apple it&#x27;s right to be scared about those, I would use PWAs for everything that&#x27;s online for sure, for stuff that&#x27;s offline probably too.<p>Excalidraw is great as PWA :)

Mozilla were ruined by big Google checks. How they could let this opportunity slip while electron became the ui for every major desktop app… such a shame.

Good to know: this is about desktop. Firefox for Android already supports installable web apps.

Why would I want to use a pwa that hides the things that allow me to control what the browser does? I actively use websites over apps solely because I have more control over the interaction.

This whole article leaves me thinking that they just reinvented having a separate window for each page, and are just calling them &quot;taskbar tabs&quot; instead of &quot;windows&quot;. After inventing tabs, we&#x27;ve now come full circle.

Web apps seem more beneficial to the business than to the end user. Like who cares?

First Certificate Transparency[1] now PWAs. Looks like Firefox is finally catching up.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43175793">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43175793</a>

I would like to see them re develop positron (firefox + electron) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mozilla&#x2F;positron" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mozilla&#x2F;positron</a>

I don&#x27;t really understand what this is for then if it doesn&#x27;t spawn in a minimal frame. This is somehow worse than just having a shortcut to open the app in a regular browser tab.

At this point, Firefox might want to shift to the advanced web browser user market. And maybe unleash a simple firefox product called firefox tails.

Finally, I had installed Brave just for the web-app support.

It’s never too late, glad to see feature work that gets attention.<p>Hopefully they keep building from here &amp; do full PWA and then from there to an answer to Electron!

Too little too late?

Hopefully (re)adding hotkeys to Firefox for Android is next.

I used Firefox for the lack of these features. Time to look at an alternative.