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Giant, fungus-like organism may be a completely unknown branch of life

312 点作者 wglb大约 2 个月前

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ahazred8ta大约 2 个月前
Prototaxites, an ancient treetrunk-mushroom-like organism that preceded land plants about 400M yr ago. Its fossils contained plantlike lignin instead of funguslike chitin or chitosan.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2025.03.14.643340v1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2025.03.14.643340v1</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Prototaxites" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Prototaxites</a>
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BrenBarn大约 2 个月前
&gt; Upon examining the internal structure of the fossilized Prototaxites, the researchers found that its interior was made up of a series of tubes<p>Who knew the internet evolved millions of years ago?
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calibas大约 2 个月前
&gt; with eukarya containing all multicellular organisms within the four kingdoms of fungi, animals, plants and protists.<p>This bugs me so much. The four-kingdom system should have died out decades ago, it&#x27;s absurdly wrong. For one thing, fungi and animals should be together (opisthokonts) if you&#x27;re dividing eukaryotes into the major groups. If you consider genetics, there&#x27;s no such thing as &quot;protists&quot;, they&#x27;re just a whole bunch of small things that were grouped together because we didn&#x27;t know otherwise.<p>It&#x27;s more like, Archaeplastida, Excavata, SAR supergroup, Amoebozoa, and Opisthokonta at the moment. The exact list is up for debate, and currently undergoing change. There&#x27;s plenty of weird things like Hemimastigophora and we&#x27;re not really sure where they fit yet.
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bbor大约 2 个月前
I saw this on bsky a few days ago and was fascinated, so glad to see it made its way here! I had this question that went unanswered, so hopefully there&#x27;s some experts&#x2F;fellow musers here:<p><i>Why grow up if you don&#x27;t need photosynthesis?</i><p>From my perusal of The Literature (AKA an amazing Wikipedia article + the paper discussed in this link), we have a few strong theories about the prototaxites:<p>1. They fed off decaying matter in the soil through a vast network of mycelia&#x2F;roots, and didn&#x27;t photosynthesize.<p>2. They grew large, trunk-like protrusions, but without any branches or leaves (that were fossilized, at least). Like, way, <i>way</i> taller than the bugs, moss, and short weird proto-grass around at the time.<p>3. These protrusions were regularly burrowed into by aforementioned bugs, which surely was a major health risk.<p>4. Even before this analysis, they&#x27;ve always been something of an oddball compared to contemporary life -- so everything&#x27;s on the table, so to speak.<p>Given those facts, I&#x27;m pretty stumped as to what evolutionary pressures might have driven them to grow upwards. At first I considered spore (seed?) dispersal, but mushrooms seem to get along just fine without towering above everything else, and I don&#x27;t think wind speeds were way lower or anything. Anyone here have any better guesses?
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qbxk大约 2 个月前
&gt; Prototaxites did not contain chitin, a major building block of fungal cell walls and a hallmark of the fungal kingdom. The Prototaxites fossils instead appeared to contain chemicals similar to lignin, which is found in the wood and bark of plants. ... best considered a member of a previously undescribed, entirely extinct group of eukaryotes<p>So these are the ancestors of Groot? or Ents? and all manner of &quot;animated trees&quot;?
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roughly大约 2 个月前
Acknowledging this is a pre-print, but it is _wild_ that we can do this kind of analysis on a species that went extinct nearly a third of a billion years before the first hominids emerged. Every now and again I&#x27;m reminded of just how far we&#x27;ve extended our sensorium as a species.
riwsky大约 2 个月前
Oh, that? That’s just Bob. He helps out around the busy season sometimes. Didn’t know this much about his family, though—neat!
intsunny大约 2 个月前
The article about the study writes: `The study has not yet been peer-reviewed.`<p>We should just stop reading the article then and there. This is a major method of how a single study can perpetuate fake science and fake news.
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countWSS大约 2 个月前
Perhaps its a Ediacaran biota remnant, that had very diverse groups some of which could be misclassified because the consensus is against Ediacaran relics existing past their period.
ChuckMcM大约 2 个月前
This was an interesting read, and reminded me how paleo-biology is the closest thing to exobiology we&#x27;ve got. Looking at the different biomes that emerged on planet earth over a billion years feels equivalent to looking at a thousand different planets at the same time. Basically a thousand chance to see what that &#x27;megayear&#x27; produced, life wise.
mmooss大约 2 个月前
&gt; All life on Earth is classified within three domains — bacteria, archaea and eukarya — with eukarya containing all multicellular organisms<p>Single cell eukaryotes also exist. Is it strictly true that there are no multicellular prokaryotes (what they call bacteria) or archaea? No exceptions at all?
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deadbabe大约 2 个月前
Is there a point in Earth’s history where if you were to visit you’d find it was just a fungus planet, with no other form of life? Could there have been fungal type creatures that lived, died, and left no trace?
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hydrogen7800大约 2 个月前
Discussions about classifying the domains of life aside, this article implies that there was, or could have been entire domains that are now extinct. Is this the case?
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neuroelectron大约 2 个月前
It&#x27;s likely simply a fungus that used lignin instead of chitin. It went instinct when fungus learned to attack lignin.
damnitbuilds大约 2 个月前
You never did like my mother.
baalimago大约 2 个月前
I wonder what it tastes like
chasil大约 2 个月前
I&#x27;m still trying to wrap my head around nitroplasts, another newfound plastid.
mfdoom13大约 2 个月前
Common Side Effects, here we come.
andrewstuart大约 2 个月前
There’s one of them at the back of my fridge.
N_A_T_E大约 2 个月前
Pretty sure this was a major plot point of the latest resident evil game.