New Windows 11 build makes mandatory Microsoft sign-in even more mandatory

Discussions (170 points, 17 hours ago, 167 comments) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43511073">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43511073</a><p>(221 points, 13 hours ago, 227 comments) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43512660">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43512660</a>

For gaming I usually use cachy os but occasionally need windows for certain games and FSR4, I’ve recently have been using those stripped down windows isos. Such as Optimum 11.<p>So far the experience has been nice, it doesn’t even come with a default browser so it’s pretty stripped down. Note that I only use it for gaming so I’m not sure if it works well as a daily os. Never had it asked me to sign in, even during installation.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;windowsxlite.com&#x2F;Optimum11Pro&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;windowsxlite.com&#x2F;Optimum11Pro&#x2F;</a>

There should be an antitrust forcing Microsoft to sell Windows, at least the part of it that’s useful for gaming.<p>It’s shameful what the do to the people locked into their platform.

The remaining foothold of windows for home use is games. It’s the only reason I still have a windows partition (well, app development to be fair but that’s not everyone). A lot of the previous moat like Word seems to have moved to the cloud.<p>So, what are the blockers for Linux for games? I know ”the linux desktop” is a meme, but IME Ubuntu (for me, but pick your choice) has been boringly reliable and easy to use for a decade now at least. (laptops are hit or miss but that’s a different story). With SteamOS, why are or aren’t we getting close to where games can run smooth and lots of home users can finally ditch Windows? DirectX? Game engine support?

What I&#x27;ve always done is just not connect it to the internet during the install process. I imagine this has implications for Rufus and tiny11, but... It&#x27;s more annoyance than anything else.<p>If you knew enough to use the command (or look up a tool&#x2F;installer that makes use of the command), you likely already know or will be quick to find the install without internet workaround.

Gonna be good fun when I need to reinstall and won&#x27;t have any kind of internet access because no drivers ship in Windows for my specific motherboard&#x27;s WiFi or Ethernet chips.

I still use Windows 7.

Microsoft barely cares about consumer Windows anymore. Cloud is where they make their real money and is where the revenue growth comes from. The company wants consumer Windows to cover its costs so it&#x27;s not a burden on the rest of the company. Beyond that, it doesn&#x27;t appear senior management really cares all that much what the backwater part of the company responsible for consumer Windows does.<p>Doubt TPM is about selling hardware. Though Microsoft has some hardware devices, most of that market is owned by other companies. OEM licenses are not a money maker like they were decades ago. TPM likely is a combination of wanting to reduce liability, part of DRM plans to make Hollywood happy, and government desire to eventually have all code signed and attributable to the individual who compiled it. It might not accomplish any of that today but is part of the roadmap to the place where those goals can be implemented.

This opens a loophole to blackmail you. If you don&#x27;t buy the Windows they can shutdown your account. And if you use the account for payments or signups e.g. to banks?<p>Kaboom!!!<p>It is a general evil plan set up step by step and not only from Microsoft.

Windows 11 LTSC is definitely the best version of win11. I have it in a VM. I really hate this push for online accounts, it&#x27;s something I&#x27;ll never agree to.

Gosh, they should adopt the slogan - “Run baby run”.

Will internet connectivity be required only when installing Windows 11, or every time you log in to the computer?

Smart (evil) way to hustle people off Windows 10.

Again OP?<p>[dupe] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43511073">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43511073</a>

Nothing more american than trying your hardest to drive people away!

Shift f10<p>Start ms-cxh:localonly

Shift F10 OOBE\BYPASSNRO I don&#x27;t have internet<p>...<p>.. edit.. so they are closing this? Ok, time for plan B