Past discussions:<p>2020 (88 points, 66 comments) <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24165284">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24165284</a><p>2013 (175 points, 92 comments) <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5770461">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5770461</a>