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Non-US-based alternatives to popular services

119 点作者 realty_geek大约 1 个月前

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remram大约 1 个月前
Seems similar to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;european-alternatives.eu&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;european-alternatives.eu&#x2F;</a> which was summitted a couple of times already
pjmlp大约 1 个月前
Eventually we might also need non-US driven programming languages and OSes, that are needed to power such non-US based services.
dangus大约 1 个月前
I&#x27;m all for resources for people looking for alternatives, but I think there are some flaws with the way this is presented.<p>The whole first section is a bunch of scary stuff that in the end is not really a great way to select products, at least in my personal opinion. If you are worried about nation-state spying you aren&#x27;t going to use <i>any</i> cloud services, and you shouldn&#x27;t take a company&#x27;s location as any sort of reasonable way to protect yourself if you are truly on that level of tin foil hat.<p>&gt; If the company has servers, offices, or employees in the US, it can be legally forced to hand over your data to the US government.<p>Yeah, <i>including many of the alternatives </i>that are on this list.*<p>I also think a lot of the alternatives have their own flaws.<p>- Alternatives that are listed with &quot;Strong privacy laws, GDPR applies.&quot; Well, the GDPR applies to any user in the EU using a product made by a US-based tech company. So choosing a company solely for GDPR coverage isn&#x27;t really a particularly good reason to choose it.<p>- Alternatives like Opera and Deepseek have offices in China which for many people concerned about state surveillance isn&#x27;t exactly an upgrade.<p>- Some alternatives on the list have US servers and US ownership, like Tidal (owned by Block (Square), a US company).
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amazingamazing大约 1 个月前
What’s the non us alternative to this site?
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MonkeyClub大约 1 个月前
Interesting how it&#x27;s on GitHub, which is US-based and corporate-owned.<p>May I suggest <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;</a> as a GitHub alternative?
nixgeek大约 1 个月前
If your threat model needs to include “I’m (going to be) a target of major nation-state intelligence community agencies” then it’s safest to assume none of this is going to prevent them getting your data?<p>James Mickens covered this at Monitorama 2014 in a humorous way. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;95066828" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;95066828</a> (16:30)
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joemazerino大约 1 个月前
Do people not think the EU spy agencies.. Spy?
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