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„Fluoride reduces IQ" report needs to be retracted

50 点作者 MrBuddyCasino大约 1 个月前

6 条评论

bhouston大约 1 个月前
I haven&#x27;t done the deep dive into the details of this - it seems difficult to test at this point because everyone in the US has fluoride - but given that it repeatedly is raised for decades, why not have a few US states remove fluoride as a controlled test and we see what happens in a decade or two?<p>I think that yes, more cavities but dentists can fix this, but it would be interesting to see the results on IQ, etc during that time. I think that large scale tests are the only way to move forward because it seems many groups in the US do not accept any other evidence.<p>So let them experiment on themselves?
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derbOac大约 1 个月前
This pretty much sums up my impression of that literature, not just the meta analysis.<p>The Broadbent et al paper is probably the best one I&#x27;ve found on the topic, and they didn&#x27;t find any effect:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;24832151&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;24832151&#x2F;</a>
ggm大约 1 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osf.io&#x2F;preprints&#x2F;osf&#x2F;zhm54_v3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osf.io&#x2F;preprints&#x2F;osf&#x2F;zhm54_v3</a>
NotGMan大约 1 个月前
The problem is food. Stop eating many carbs and no more tooth problems.<p>Trying to solve tooth rot with flouride is stupid because it misses the point: flouride doesn&#x27;t help much: people still get tooth rot.<p>So basicaly if you flouridate water you get tooth rot + you ingest a neurotoxins.<p>Stop eating trash food and you won&#x27;t get rotten teeth + no neurotoxin will be ingested!<p>People who will comment in the likes of &quot;yeah but people won&#x27;t change their diets&quot;: I agree, they won&#x27;t. But I don&#x27;t want to get neurotoxin put into my water because other people are fine with poisoning their children with trash food.
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metalman大约 1 个月前
the thing is that floride does reduce the collective &quot;IQ&quot; of society, through the sheer amount of energy devoted to arguing about it given that there is more than enough data to make complete and open determinations of all of florides effects, it would serve everybody to create and publish all of it. there ARE problems with water supplies, worldwide, and there have been horrible mistakes and cover ups. If there areedge cases and people with suseptibilities to floride(very likely), then that needs to be understood, and published. The simple fact is that there is a great deal of variability in human populations in how they can metabolise things in food and water, with some populations able to pass levels of arsinic that is lethal to others. There is one view point that suggests that population groups should be defined by there enzimatic balance, rather than ethnicity or race. I personaly had a accidental, but major impact on our local water supply, when chatting with some of our local legislators about our water, I joked that I was considering refuseing to pay my water bill, as water is defined as a coulorless, oderless liquid, and what came out of my tap, was niether......the one guy said &quot;can I use that?&quot; we got a whole new water supply clean water and air need to be primary, non negotiable rights, that every person has, and must be included in all municipal declarations, ie:no <i>clean water, no town or city<p></i>clean*~up to date published testing....no secrets<p>!trivia: floride was identified as benificial to dental health from small populations in ?sweden? switzerland? way way back, who had great teath, and the local wells have naturaly occuring, floride......
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AStonesThrow大约 1 个月前
Recently I learned that black and green tea contains not-insignificant levels of fluoride, because the tea plant concentrates the substance in its leaves as it grows.<p>This suddenly made amazing sense: Englishmen comprise an empire pacified by means of voluntarily drinking tea (as well as China&#x2F;Japan, et. al.) and in fact making it a veritably religious ritual that is so ubiquitous that you name mealtimes after it.<p>So when other nations pondered how to introduce fluoride to non-tea-drinkers, they needed to be crafty about it.<p>Thanks mom, for dozens of gallons of wholly ineffective fluoridated water when we were growing up. Surely my perpetual stupidity and mental illness and Prozac prescriptions are unrelated.
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