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A balanced review of Math Academy

52 点作者 ozanonay大约 1 个月前

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rahimnathwani大约 1 个月前
I like that this review is written by someone who gave Math Academy a serious try. He mentions comments by a couple of other math educators (Michael Pershan and Dan Meyer), but I haven&#x27;t seen any evidence that either of them has used Math Academy for enough time to evaluate it.<p>(At the time I recommended my son start doing Math Academy, I had done 3722 XP myself, which is about 60 hours&#x27; worth.)<p>It&#x27;s true that there&#x27;s a stronger emphasis on procedural fluency than on conceptual understanding. But honestly I think that&#x27;s good: there&#x27;s so much good material online for conceptual understanding.<p>Imagine you&#x27;re studying linear algebra: use Math Academy for rigorous introductions to topics and exercises and feedback, and watch 3Blue1Brown videos for conceptual understanding.<p>For younger kids (my son is 8.5yo) I wish Math Academy had some animated or video explanations. For example, the prealgebra course includes the product rule for surds. It was hard for my son to grok based on reading the written explanation. Not because the explanation was bad, but because my son has the attention span of an 8.5yo. So I spent a few minutes walking through that same explanation with him, using a paper and pencil to guide his attention.<p>I also wish they had a mascot and a streak feature. Those features on Duolingo somehow help to motivate my son.
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thaumasiotes大约 1 个月前
&gt; So why do some learning resources designed for autodidacts—such as Math Academy, or the generally very good Execute Program—rely so heavily on dependency graphs?<p>I went to a university where the upper-division undergraduate math courses didn&#x27;t have much in the way of prerequisites.<p>A foreseeable consequence of this approach is that the first several weeks of each ten-week class are spent covering material that&#x27;s shared with other classes, because that material is relevant to both classes but isn&#x27;t included in the lower-division prerequisites. This is very bad as a matter of curriculum design, but good if you&#x27;re more interested in making sure students never have scheduling conflicts.<p>Another example of dependency graphs is that when my sister signed up for Portuguese classes, she took &quot;Portuguese 1 for Spanish speakers&quot; rather than &quot;Portuguese 1&quot;. You can learn Portuguese from an English perspective, or you can learn it from a Spanish perspective, and those are both approaches that can work, but they&#x27;re not approaches you&#x27;d want to combine. In this case, one of the approaches is clearly superior - if you <i>can</i> relate Portuguese to your knowledge of Spanish, that will work better than relating it to English - but even where no particular dependency structure is preferable to another, it remains true that the plan for going from A to B isn&#x27;t the same as the plan for going from B to A, or the same as the plan for going from nothing to B. So the curriculum needs to rely on a dependency tree.
blindriver大约 1 个月前
This review reads very much like one written by someone who reluctantly is trying to find excuses to criticize it. Many of the things he says feel made up.<p>For example,<p>&gt; Many of the questions I answered correctly were in areas that I don’t feel I understand well, but where I suppose I had drilled enough in the past for my procedural fluency to survive 20 years of atrophy.<p>The author is complaining that he felt like he should have done worse because emotionally he thought he knew it less than he actually did. This is an entirely fictional, made-up criticism. He obviously knew it better than he &quot;felt&quot; he did.<p>The entire review reads like this, trying to make up real-sounding criticisms that to me just don&#x27;t make very much sense. The DAG criticism as well doesn&#x27;t make sense. There is no &quot;one way&quot;. The DAG approach probably works for many if not most students, but of course there are other students it won&#x27;t work for. Exactly like how phonics works for many students but some need to be taught whole word reading. You can&#x27;t criticize the DAG approach just because some students can&#x27;t learn that way, but they have to pick one method. I would expect a teacher to have a better critcism than that.
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julianh65大约 1 个月前
I&#x27;ve been using Math Academy for a couple of months now seriously (~3.5k XP). Initially I was reviewing topics &#x2F; concepts that I already had an intuitive understanding of from college courses, and I believe for those it has helped take me to the next level in that I now can, 99% of the time, solve problems in those topics. As I start to approach topics that I haven&#x27;t fully covered in college or have some intuitive understanding for I do find that I can mechanically carry out the operations, but I lack an understanding of &quot;why&quot; I&#x27;m doing this.<p>I think the author of this makes some good points to this effect. I believe that the best approach is a bit inverse of what the author is saying however. I think that Math Academy should be the base, where 80-90% of your time is spent. The remaining 10-20% should be used to supplement this. Either with lectures, textbook &#x2F; edutainment reading or other ways to develop more of that intuition.
turtleyacht大约 1 个月前
Author mentions Simmons&#x27; <i>Differential Equations with Applications and Historical Notes</i> (1972), which is at Internet Archive:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;details&#x2F;differentialequa0000simm&#x2F;page&#x2F;n6&#x2F;mode&#x2F;1up" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.org&#x2F;details&#x2F;differentialequa0000simm&#x2F;page&#x2F;n6...</a>
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cultofmetatron大约 1 个月前
as someone who&#x27;s been using mathacademy for a few months now, I&#x27;m pretty happy with what it provides. Yes it focuses on &quot;procedural fluency&quot; and thats not a bad thing.<p>if learning mathematics was like body building, traditional classes would be the equivalent of going to a traditional classroom where you get a lecture on the various pathways to build muscle strength. its on you to spend your off ours going into the gym and doing the work. Progress might be slow becase your feedback on your &quot;problem sets&quot; comes back a few days later.<p>Mathacademy on the other hand is like having a trainer at the gym. every day they take a look at you and tell you what exercises to do and to set the difficulty. You might not know exactly how all the pieces fit together but thats ok. you&#x27;re getting stronger. you are seeing progress in your ability to just power through problems.<p>I personally have found my algebra skills to have improved substantially. I remember factoring to be a struggle for me when I was in high school. after a few weeks of mathacademy its pretty easy now. Does it mean I have a great conceptual framework for solving real world problems? probably not but I&#x27;m in a much better position to learn that skill as a result of mathacademy.<p>BTW math academy guys, if you&#x27;re reading this. Id LOVE a class on circuit analysis!
Rendello大约 1 个月前
I had a longer comment but it was too all over the place. For me, ultimately, I think Math Academy has really helped me. That being said, I put <i>a lot</i> of time and effort into it, and I imagine it would be difficult for people with a lot of commitments. I sometimes reach for supplementary materials, sometimes get ChatGPT to re-explain something, but mostly I manage.<p>I think the article gives the impression that MA is like Duolingo, but it&#x27;s not. There&#x27;s no flashy animations, sound effects, or mascots, the interface is spartan like Hacker News. It can&#x27;t be (effectively) done in five minutes a day. It requires total concentration and a lot of time commitment.
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SideQuark大约 1 个月前
&gt; But should you learn integration before differentiation? I’d never considered this approach until I read David M. Bressoud’s fantastic book Calculus Reordered,<p>Ha, I learned calculus integration first from Ivan Niven&#x27;s &quot;CALCULUS An Introductory Approach,&quot; copyright 1961, that as a kid I found in the attic in my dads undergrad engineering books. When I got to high school and took calc, I was able to do all the stuff they were teaching, but in weird orders and methods compared to more modern books.<p>Now, 40+ years later, I still have that book on my bookshelf in the calculus section :)<p>Till now, it&#x27;s it only book I&#x27;ve seen that teaches it this way.
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