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A slow guide to confronting doom

16 点作者 namanyayg29 天前

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michaelhoney29 天前
people winding themselves up about artificial superintelligence, when it’s organic stupidity that’s actually the problem<p>look around you. the world is burning. fix that
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urbandw311er29 天前
What is the doom that the author refers to? It’s very unclear.
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xg1528 天前
Aaand, full-on &quot;Rationalist&quot; cult territory right ahead. This particular one seems like inspired by Longtermism, but I&#x27;m not quite sure.<p>I also don&#x27;t quite understand the mathematical certainty with which they assert that &quot;everything you know and love will be gone in the next decades&quot;. Yes, the world is a scary place right now with some fundamental changes going on - and a lot if the trajectory seems to be distinctly in the wrong direction. But to see a definitive, unavoidable end if all things in a few decades seems more like a classical doomsday cult for me.<p>(...ah, OK, and of course the certain doom isn&#x27;t about trivialities like the reemergence of fascism, impending WWIII or unchecked climate change but about the mathematically inevitable rise of godlike super-AIs that will wipe out humanity. Got it.)<p>But on the chance of catching an actual Longtermist here, I&#x27;d like to ask a question that I&#x27;d never understood so far:<p>&gt; <i>One&#x27;s approach to living, deep down if not at the surface level algorithms, should cash out to trying to accumulate as much value as you can. That doesn&#x27;t change just because doom is likely.<p>We can split the value one pursues into the value one is accruing right now (I like to call this &quot;harvesting&quot;) and the value one is preparing to harvest in the future (I call this &quot;sowing&quot;).<p>Most of the value, or expected value, would likely be in the future (because there&#x27;s so much of it!) but for two reasons it makes sense to harvest now and not just sow for the future.</i><p>... followed by three relatively circumstantial and mostly psychological reasons that feel like they are more &quot;exceptions to the rule&quot; for practical reasons and shouldnt exist in an ideal world.<p>But just approaching this from a theoretical perspective: If we ignored our messy, imperfect human desires for a moment and assumed we&#x27;d all be perfect AIs or whatever, the logical conclusion would be we should &quot;accumulate&quot; <i>all</i> our value in the future? (As, in the limit, the present vanishes compared to the future, I guess). So 100% sowing, 0% harvesting? But the problem is if course that there will always be a future and it will never be the present. So wouldn&#x27;t this actually lead to a world full of suffering, because <i>no</i> value at all is ever realized, as all of it would be stashed away for an eternal future that by definition can never arrive?