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Ask HN: Is the US losing to China in tech creation and production?

8 点作者 bicepjai大约 1 个月前
(Post created working with Gemini 2.5 Pro) In the latest tech news for 2025, I&#x27;m noticing concerning trends:<p>AI Models: Chinese companies like DeepSeek are gaining significant momentum in the open-source AI space[5]. Their models are becoming competitive with US offerings from OpenAI and Anthropic. Recent benchmarks show Chinese models performing exceptionally well in reasoning tasks[3][5].<p>Smartphones: The OPPO Find N5 released in February 2025 outperforms the iPhone 15 Pro Max in several key specs: larger 8.1&quot; display vs 6.7&quot;, 16GB RAM vs 8GB, 5600mAh battery vs 4422mAh, and faster charging (80W)[2][4]. The OPPO Find X7 Ultra&#x27;s camera system also ranks higher on DXOMark than the iPhone 15 Pro Max[6].<p>AR&#x2F;VR: Chinese manufacturers are producing more affordable and feature-rich AR&#x2F;VR glasses than US counterparts.<p>Is this just market competition, or are we witnessing a fundamental shift in tech leadership? What structural advantages does China have in tech creation and production that we should be learning from ?<p>Sources [1] The Best AI Models Ranked By REAL Performance Data 2025 https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=RP1v8X8MGtc [2] Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max vs OPPO Find N5 - specs comparison https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.phonearena.com&#x2F;phones&#x2F;compare&#x2F;Apple-iPhone-15-Pro-Max,OPPO-Find-N5&#x2F;phones&#x2F;11930,12625 [3] Comparison of AI Models across Intelligence, Performance, Price https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artificialanalysis.ai&#x2F;models [4] Compare Oppo Reno 13 Pro 5G vs Apple iPhone 15: which is better? https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nanoreview.net&#x2F;en&#x2F;phone-compare&#x2F;oppo-reno-13-pro-5g-vs-apple-iphone-15 [5] The Best AI Chatbots &amp; LLMs of Q1 2025: Rankings &amp; Data - UpMarket https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.upmarket.co&#x2F;blog&#x2F;the-best-ai-chatbots-llms-of-q1-2025-complete-comparison-guide-and-research-firm-ranks&#x2F; [6] Camera Comparison: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs. Oppo Find X7 Ultra https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.macrumors.com&#x2F;2024&#x2F;04&#x2F;22&#x2F;iphone-15-pro-max-vs-oppo-x7-ultra&#x2F; [7] An Opinionated Guide on Which AI Model to Use in 2025 https:&#x2F;&#x2F;creatoreconomy.so&#x2F;p&#x2F;an-opinionated-guide-on-which-ai-model-2025 [8] Apple iPhone 16e vs Oppo Reno 13 Pro comparison - Gadgets 360 https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gadgets360.com&#x2F;compare-apple-iphone-16e-130887-vs-oppo-reno-13-pro-129420

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Daishiman大约 1 个月前
It&#x27;s not a shift; it&#x27;s a trend of industrialization that has been going on linearly for almost 30 years. It&#x27;s only become highly visible post-pandemic but has been decades in the making.
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ksec大约 1 个月前
Before Apple moved to TSMC, 95% of so called tech world has no idea what TSMC was. Even on HN.<p>In 10 - 20 Years time, most hardware will be free and subsided by Software. Because hardware is easy to copy and make while Software is infinite complexity. That is what I believe Bill Gate said in late 90s or early 2000.<p>And that has famously stuck with Silicon Valley ever since. No one gives a damn about hardware. iPhone was expected to start a trend ( or not for some ), the industry didn&#x27;t expect Apple&#x27;s iPhone to be as big, they all thought these expensive iPhone would only be 1 - 2% of the market.<p>There is no money in PC or hardware. Dell famously sold PC nearly at a loss and only earn money from Intel&#x27;s marketing programme as well as preinstalled software.<p>It is precisely this idea the west has simply gave up on anything Hardware and all focus on either software or Hardware IP.<p>All while China went &quot;ALL IN&quot; with making Hardware. Not only do they have far more efficient Government, they also have far more subsidies. Take TSMC for example, if money wasn&#x27;t a problem, how fast could you build a new Fab in US compared to Taiwan? Which for TSMC operate at similar level of efficiency compared to Chinese Government.<p>And US Government isn&#x27;t even slow, try UK, EU, Canada or AUS.
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lofaszvanitt大约 1 个月前
get used to it, that china will lead in several areas