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China Can Have It All – China is currently winner of America's self-sabotage

63 点作者 INGELRII26 天前

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audunw26 天前
I find it odd that, in very few of the articles that take a positive view on Chinas outlook in this trade war is it mentioned that China is knee deep in debt (when shadow debt is included) and very dependent on exports to avoid catastrophe.<p>It could still turn out well for China. It’s just that this risk should be mentioned. Otherwise it’s easy to believe that Chinas win here is inevitable.
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tim33326 天前
&gt; If Europe is empowered as a result of the US self-sabotage shenanigans, the situation may well turn out much less convenient for Russia.<p>I kind of hope that happens. China can do ok just not getting involved in the various fights as far as it can.
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RetroTechie26 天前
It&#x27;s hard to see how China will <i>not</i> profit in various ways from the US going into self-destruct mode.<p>Well... that is: China &amp; other parties (Europe, India, maybe Brazil or some African nations, ...). Russia&#x27;s downward spiral doesn&#x27;t hurt China either.<p>The US still needs China (read: its manufacturing base) for many things. The other way around, not so much.
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quantum_state26 天前
The current US administration does not seem to get things conceptually right … nobody seems to know what they are up to … the government seems to be on a constant knee jerk reaction mode … when will there be an adult in the room? As tax payers, we are not getting our money worth. Firing may come soon.
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jacknews26 天前
I find this author very difficult to read<p>I&#x27;ll guess English is not their native language but then I&#x27;d expect to see simplified-english, and instead I find a dense thicket<p>as though they think they are completely fluent, and then throw alien forms, phrases, idioms and analogies around
tw198426 天前
you can pretty much replace the current US president with a random number generator and be better off as a nation.<p>with that in mind, you don&#x27;t need helps from the best AI to figure out that how is the winner and who is the loser.
shrubble26 天前
It’s a bit early to claim victory; to make a comparison with American history, the Civil War was expected to be over in 6 months, when it first started.
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notepad0x9026 天前
Chinese leadership is wise enough to know that they don&#x27;t exist in a vacuum. They don&#x27;t want the US ruined, they want the US reduced to a powerful and wealthy state, but not a more powerful state than them or their allies. They don&#x27;t have global domination goals similar to the US.<p>If you think about it, the US spends enormous amounts on military, trying to protect a world order and economic stability. China is one of the benefactors of this investment. Why should China spend as much as the US when the US can spend it for them? Why should China spend&#x2F;invest on so many institutions to support their own standard currency like the USD? China is the #1 owner of US bonds,they lose more than any foreign entity if the US economy collapses too quickly.<p>They just want control over their neighbors and obviously to be a super-power like the US to where they can influence trade partners as they wish. An America that is prosperous economically but neutered diplomatically is ideal for them.<p>The one thing trump did many aren&#x27;t noticing too closely is that he dismantled the institutions and organizations built around spreading democracy around the world. I vehemently oppose his reasoning and intent (and just overall everything about this administration), but the result might be for the best in terms of a global balance of power and avoiding wars with China.<p>Taiwan is a good example and at the core of US&#x2F;China hostilities, Trump isn&#x27;t going to defend Taiwan, that&#x27;s a given. It sucks, but if Taiwan&#x27;s survival depends on WW3 breaking out if they get invaded, then their situation is already untenable. I&#x27;m convinced China will regain full control over Taiwan by the end of this decade, and without any military conflict. If the US will stay out of regional power grabs and conflicts (the Vietnam war was caused by the US trying to stop China in this regard), then I suspect there could actually be a possibility for peaceful relations with China.<p>Keep in mind that China isn&#x27;t even competing with the US in most areas, unless the US really does want to bring back a manufacturing industry that will export to the world and compete with the China.<p>The main reason the US will remain an economic super power is the lack of worker protections in the US and the liberties and luxuries the rich enjoy in the US (business-friendly as they say). China in comparison is very hostile and unstable (look at what they did to their own billionaire last year) to the rich. Sad to say, but because China would rather look out for their own people, the US is still a better place not just for the rich but even for academia (lots of research funding, private uni&#x27;s that do well,etc..).<p>Oh, and keep in mind that trump&#x27;s isolationism will only work if he carriers through with threats of invading other countries. Literally every country except like Russia is turning away from the US on every front. If this was something I was reading in a history book, I would say the collapse of the US as an empire and a nation is being engineered with great efficiency. But I suspect in reality it would be more like reducing the US to the size of Germany in terms of economics and the UK in terms of military.<p>I hope for and would be impressed if subsequent administrations manage to prevent or even contain he cascading collapse started by this administration. I suspect it takes about 20 years for the military side of things to play out and a full generation cycle (40-50 yrs) for people to start referring to the US empire in the past tense like the USSR?
ironyman26 天前
China, based on demographics alone, will never be a demand based consumption economy. The only reason so much stuff is still made in China is the sunk cost to build an industrial complex.<p>In the end, it really doesn&#x27;t matter what the issues with China are. There are an endless number of points that if you bother to look into it the chinese are not peers of the US. However, the US, need an external boogeyman who appears competent to make politics work.
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