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How Tesla is replacing the age-old CAN bus

18 点作者 KnuthIsGod23 天前

12 条评论

Bluestein23 天前
This is just what we need: &quot;From the same guys that brought you the Cybertruck, comes a new replacement protocol [for a tried and true thing that&#x27;s been running for decades] ...&quot;<p>I really hope the industry sits this one out or, if needed, comes up with something better.-
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lpcvoid23 天前
What a bad article. Why would you want to stream video over CAN? Also, alright, so Tesla has invented Flexray, MOST and AVB. Congratulations?
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damnitbuilds23 天前
&quot;CAN FD barely makes the mark for 1080p video streaming at 60fps&quot;<p>Maybe use CAN for what it was intended and add any new, proprietary high-speed video stuff on the side?
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numpad023 天前
CAN bus never was the only choice of automotive buses, it&#x27;s the cheapest option. There were always competing standards like FlexRay and LIN buses, just like there were Rambus RDRAM against JEDEC SDRAM or IEEE1394 against USB.<p>It&#x27;s what Mercedes pioneered, and what most high-volume manufacturers standardized on, including most Japanese and American brands. Some European companies like Volkswagen-Audi Group uses something else. I think implication of that is clear.<p>Nissan and Toyota had been shipping cars with automotive Ethernet since as early as 2019. Including Toyota&#x27;s Hydrogen EV since at least 2022. I think implication of that is also clear.
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jeffbee23 天前
IEEE-1394 has(d) all the logical properties this article attributes to ElonBus and it&#x27;s 30 years old.
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jauntywundrkind23 天前
Another take on the headline:<p>&gt; Tesla replacing common bus with wide range of somewhat interoperable tools with own proprietary bus no one else will be able to talk to
amelius23 天前
Can&#x27;t we just use Ethernet instead?
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formerly_proven23 天前
Nobody ever tried to use CAN for streaming video, because that’s not the purpose of CAN?<p>&gt; Tesla’s next-gen networking is all about timing - and unlike CAN, where two messages coming in at the same time can collide (resulting in neither reaching the node),<p>&gt; CAN is like everyone yelling in a room<p>This is simply false. CAN uses bit arbitration and the lowest address wins.
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ohgr23 天前
Can’t wait for their shitty half baked software to break something critical hanging off the same bus as the cameras.<p>(Ex model S owner - would never touch another thing they went near again)
retinaros23 天前
cant read stuff that is in between ads.
alternatex23 天前
Is this a website that&#x27;s entire purpose is to shill for Tesla or have I become too cynical?<p>This article for example was written to debunk Mark Rober&#x27;s video on Tesla and collision avoidance: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notateslaapp.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2609&#x2F;new-wile-e-coyote-wall-video-puts-teslas-fsd-v13-to-the-test" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notateslaapp.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2609&#x2F;new-wile-e-coyote-wal...</a><p>But the arguments made against it seem quite biased towards Tesla: &quot;However, this entire test scenario is so out of left field… there is a good likelihood this same test would fool some human drivers as well&quot;<p>When one of the major arguments of the video was about easy and affordable it was for the average LIDAR system to detect the wall. Of course human beings are not perfect drivers, which is why Tesla&#x27;s attempt at mimicking human senses for its self driving capabilities is a bad idea. But the article seems completely ignorant of this IMO very clearly stated narrative in Mark&#x27;s video.
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fabiofzero23 天前
More like can&#x27;t bus, amirite?