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EU Energy labelling will apply to phones and tablets from June 2025

90 点作者 sohkamyung19 天前

13 条评论

myrmidon19 天前
Nice page! I&#x27;m extremely happy about efforts like this. You might argue that the EU is a sprawling, wasteful bureaucracy and you would not be wrong, per se, but they made a lot of <i>useful</i> laws that just simply make the world a better place.<p>Having standardized chargers for phones and laptops is SUPER nice and would never have happened without intervention IMO.<p>The only equivalent for US &quot;useful, average-citizen friendly legislation&quot; that I recently heard about was the standardization of powertool batteries pursued by doge-- which turned out to be an april hoax when I just looked it up :(
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danieldk19 天前
<i>availability of operating system upgrades for longer periods (at least 5 years from the date of the end of placement on the market of the last unit of a product model)</i><p>This is so great! A lot of manufacturers were counting from the date of introduction. A lot of phones only had a 3 year support period. If they are on the market for two years, the people buying last would only get one year of support. This swaps to the last date of sale, which is much more consumer-friendly. I still have to read up on what <i>operating system upgrades</i> entails.<p><i>rules on disassembly and repair, including obligations for producers to make critical spare parts available within 5-10 working days, and for 7 years after the end of sales of the product model on the EU market</i><p>Awesome!
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greatgib19 天前
I have mixed feeling about this.<p>On one side, it is good to have consumer friendly regulation like manufacturers to be forced to support right to repair. But on the opposite side, lots of bullshit requirements again like the energy labelling, that will do that we have less products, mostly from big actors only, and more expensive due the then useless regulation barrier.<p>And the mixed feeling is stronger for things like manufacturers that needs to provide support for the os for 5 years and more. Sure, I&#x27;m happy that it applies to big tech like apple, Google and Samsung, when it is what I&#x27;m expecting. But, I, as a consumer, I would like some times to be able to buy other products, cheaper, crappier (for a burner or test devices for example), and to have small actors being able the try innovation without needing a 500 millions backing to be able to see in Europe.<p>What I would have preferred is a law more oriented on consumer rights than manufacturing regulation: Forbidding more clearly explicit monopolistic behaviors like what is done with app store; and for right to repair and co, not needing the company to provide support for repair for 5 years but that if they don&#x27;t, or after 5 years, that they have to release in open source the software, blueprints or tools that are needed to be able to support your own device yourself.
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code-blooded19 天前
I really like it. It makes being a more conscious customer easier and you can make your own trade-offs by looking at a product and price.<p>Hopefully online stores will add ability to filter by these criteria.
drooopy19 天前
I&#x27;m not sure about energy efficiency and energy class, but information such as battery endurance, repairability class, waterproof rating, structural durability and update support should absolutely be clearly stated on the packaging.
wiz21c19 天前
In the shop in my town, they sell televisions. Led ones, oled ones, big screen, the usual stuff. They have about 50 models. All have energy labels C or worse. No A, no A+, no B... Once there was an A one but the picture quality was horrible.<p>I&#x27;m happy to be more conscious, but someone is working against the scheme: I don&#x27;t have a real choice...
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gizmo19 天前
Phones and tablets are already among the most energy efficient devices. A tablet sips power compared to a desktop PC. Isn&#x27;t energy use totally dominated by lights, cooling and heating of the spaces we inhabit?<p>Repairability rules I like. Rules about OS updates are good too. But the energy claims look like BS to me:<p>&gt; In 1990, the annual electricity consumption for (networked) standby of the base stations and charging cradles of cordless landline phones was 37.1 kWh. In 2020, without measures, this would have been 24.5 kWh. Due to the Ecodesign standby regulation, this was reduced to 16.1 kWh in 2020, a 34% saving. Due to the addition of the 2023 Ecodesign regulation on phones, this is expected to further reduce to 8.0 kWh in 2030, a 63% saving versus no measures.
sofixa19 天前
Key quote:<p>&gt; The regulations focus on measures to extend product lifetime (reparability, upgradability, battery life). The increase in average lifetime, e.g. from 3.0 to 4.1 years for a mid-range smartphone
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MrBuddyCasino19 天前
What is the point of even thinking about energy efficiency of smartphones and tablets? As if they aren&#x27;t already extremely efficient. They&#x27;re not even using a lot of power on an absolute level.
djoldman19 天前
I was curious so I dug into what&#x27;s involved for placing a product in a particular &quot;efficiency class.&quot; Here&#x27;s the section on &quot;electronic displays&quot;:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eur-lex.europa.eu&#x2F;legal-content&#x2F;EN&#x2F;TXT&#x2F;?toc=OJ%3AL%3A2019%3A315%3ATOC&amp;uri=uriserv%3AOJ.L_.2019.315.01.0001.01.ENG#L_2019315EN.01001201" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eur-lex.europa.eu&#x2F;legal-content&#x2F;EN&#x2F;TXT&#x2F;?toc=OJ%3AL%3...</a>
jeffbee19 天前
Quick reminder that when alarmists talk about &quot;data center energy use&quot; they are almost always quoting aggregate statistics that encompass mobile networks. The mobile networks are actually using half of the aggregate power[1]. So how do these regulations address <i>that</i> aspect of the problem. This press release claims to save 2.2TWh&#x2F;a by 2030 which is less than one percent of the energy used by transmission networks today.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iea.org&#x2F;energy-system&#x2F;buildings&#x2F;data-centres-and-data-transmission-networks#:~:text=Global%20trends%20in%20digital%20and%20energy%20indicators%2C%202015%2D2022" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iea.org&#x2F;energy-system&#x2F;buildings&#x2F;data-centres-and...</a>
ltbarcly319 天前
This is just me thinking this through and is not a claim to be authoritative whatsoever.<p>The average power draw of a cell phone is what, 4 watts? 6 watts? Lets say 10W, which is silly high (most can only charge at around 20W for an hour and a charge lasts at least 12 hours, but lets just take a high number.) At 10W constant draw it would consume 87,600Wh per year. Lets round up for inefficiencies and call it 100kWh. (That&#x27;s about $11&#x2F;yr of electricity where I live, about 3 cents per day but this isn&#x27;t my point.)<p>(For reference, my Pixel 8 Pro gets 16+ hours on average if I don&#x27;t put it on my wireless charger, and it&#x27;s battery is only 5000mAh, which my calculations say is around 1W of average draw. This matches what I see on the display on my charging cord.)<p>An average person in Norway consumes 24000kWh per year (according to wikipedia. Someone in Spain would be about 5000kWh). This regulation will cut their cell phone power usage by about 1&#x2F;3 (based on the quoted estimated savings and the # of people in the EU, but I don&#x27;t believe these numbers), so maybe about 33kWh per year (and remember this is using absurdly over estimated numbers). That is approximately a 1&#x2F;1000 reduction in power usage (or 1&#x2F;200 in spain). Using realistic numbers I don&#x27;t see how it&#x27;s possible to anticipate any reduction in energy usage, in fact it would be a huge increase if all phones only met the minimum required in this regulation.<p>I will wager that the cost of compliance will slightly increase, however. This is a benefit to established manufacturers as their cost per device for compliance is low, and they already have mechanisms to ensure compliance and testing, and relationships with regulators. It&#x27;s a nontrivial increase in the already significant barrier to entry to everyone else, even if their devices easily comply.<p>Cell phones and other mobile devices already compete on energy efficiency being one of the primary factors driving purchasing decisions (in fact it&#x27;s more potent competition than that, since it&#x27;s battery life). There is no meaningful initial price&#x2F;efficiency tradeoff like some other products, such as mini splits or other HVAC where people might be &#x27;cheap&#x27; up front but then it costs them more over time due to less efficiency, in fact the more efficient a phone is the cheaper it can be to manufacture because you can install a smaller battery. This compounds the benefit of being efficient. Based just on my own intuition, I would predict that the anti-competitive barriers to entry this sets up will lead to a slight reduction in competition in the market, which will actually let manufacturers invest less in energy efficiency (and every other aspect of their phones) while maintaining their market share.<p>I predict that this regulation actually causes phones to become slightly less energy efficient than they would otherwise. Worse, if there were no regulation phones and other devices would likely become significantly more efficient than this regulation requires regardless, so the regulation just imposes a cost. Worse, there isn&#x27;t a problem here to begin with, the energy usage of these devices does not show up in the data of total energy use unless you scroll all the way to the bottom, these devices are already using less power than a single LED light bulb turned on for 4 hours a day. If they just redirected the costs of compliance with this stupid regulation to something effective, such as adding to the subsidy on hyper-efficient mini split systems, it could save <i>substantial</i> amount of energy and push forwards electrification goals.
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havaloc19 天前
It&#x27;s too bad the label won&#x27;t have the number of charge cycles the battery is good for.
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