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China's Clinical Trial Boom

160 点作者 surprisetalk14 天前

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munchler12 天前
Meanwhile DOGE has cancelled more than $2 billion in federal research grants. The US is shooting itself in the foot when it should be competing at its best.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbsnews.com&#x2F;amp&#x2F;news&#x2F;nih-layoffs-budget-cuts-medical-research-60-minutes&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbsnews.com&#x2F;amp&#x2F;news&#x2F;nih-layoffs-budget-cuts-med...</a>
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miki12321112 天前
China&#x27;s population is almost twice that of the US and EU <i>combined</i>. If what you&#x27;re lacking for is patients, there&#x27;s no better place to go to.<p>Not only that, but we&#x27;re also a lot more obsessed with patient privacy. If somebody dies of cancer, there&#x27;s no headline news about them dying of a cancelled trial, even if that&#x27;s actually what happened. If patient data leaks, there&#x27;s both a PR nightmare and legal consequences for the institution. That drives priorities.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if (some) Chinese researches are allowed to SELECT * from citizens where disease = &#x27;bone_cancer&#x27;, whereas researchers in the US have to send people to waiting rooms in hopes of catching an eligible patient[1]. Unless this gets changed, things won&#x27;t get better.<p>We really need to start optimizing for min(deaths) instead of min(bad_pr) or min(outrage). That&#x27;s a genuinely hard problem in a democratic society that respects the right to free speech (which, to be clear, is a very good society to live in IMO). In a way, it&#x27;s a good problem to have.<p>[1] is a really good and accessible overview of why drug trials are so hard and what could be done to make them easier, it&#x27;s worth checking out for anybody who wants to dive deeper into the subject.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.complexsystemspodcast.com&#x2F;episodes&#x2F;drug-development-ross-rheingans-yoo&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.complexsystemspodcast.com&#x2F;episodes&#x2F;drug-developm...</a>
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Veedrac13 天前
So much of policy success comes down to doing obvious and reasonable things, and most of the problem is how to incentivize making those choices. For all China&#x27;s flaws, they&#x27;ve figured this out.<p>The best news here is that we might finally have a prosaic means to escape our modern-era applied biotech stagnation, the same way solar has appeared as a means to kick the feet out of traditional energy sources. China is pretty new to being an R&amp;D powerhouse, but there are few more worthy causes.
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holoduke12 天前
Just a walk in a random big city in China reveals how fast they are progressing. The speed of things changing is ridiculous. In almost every field they are getting better. And fast. Thats what you can achieve when your country has 40 years of mass production experience. The thing I hope most for is that China gets its own high performing chips so that companies like Nvidia really get a competitor.
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pappyvanwinkle12 天前
Interesting piece, but I think it is helpful to highlight some points not addressed that provide meaningful context. Though the US system is not perfect, I think we need to acknowledge the US does have a robust, enviable biomedical &#x2F; regulatory ecosystem, and lots of thought and effort have gone into curating the system that we all enjoy today. To engage with a select few of the points made:<p>1) Author cites that China introduced priority review mechanisms, conditional approvals, and accelerated timelines to streamline approval pathways. They fail to mention that the US helped pioneer these same mechanisms and that they are currently, actively, in use. We DO have priority review vouchers to incentivize investment in orphan disease, conditional approval pathways, and breakthrough designations for drugs addressing unmet needs to name a few. The US has been, and continues to be an innovator on these topics and credit should be given here - this stuff isn&#x27;t new to us and there is a rich history of attempts to incentivize innovation ranging from offering prizes for cures to disease, to purchasing experimental therapeutics in advance of approval to ensure sponsors have the cashflow to continue development.<p>2) Regarding acceptance of foreign data, whose data do you think the rest of the world wants to use by designing their policies the way they have? Many countries are willing to accept foreign data because that includes data generated in the US, where historically and presently, standards are very high and the research infrastructure is well-supported (recent events notwithstanding). One need only look at the story of Dr. Frances Kelsey and thalidomide to understand why the US has gone to great lengths to ensure a high bar that is carefully maintained by its own FDA&#x27;s standards. This is NOT to say great data isn&#x27;t generated elsewhere and there are examples where ex-US data has been used to support US approval of promising drugs (particularly in areas of significant unmet need, for example, neurodegenerative disease), but there is rhyme to the reason that goes beyond the argument that the US is antiquated in its approach. That said, one can acknowledge there is a geopolitical component that may wax and wane in relative importance depending on the current political climate.<p>3) Citing the Lunar trial actually highlights the robustness of the US biomedical enterprise rather than detracts from it - that trial was conducted in patients with stage IV NSCLC after they progressed on platinum therapy. In the US during the enrollment period, ICIs like pembro were being approved as first-line monotherapy displacing platinum-based therapies. So the problem there is when practice changes, you&#x27;re going to 1) have a harder time finding patients that are progressing on the thing that is no longer first line and 2) remember the intervention arm was ICI + TTF...so you can&#x27;t intervene when people have already received the drug class that is part of your intervention. Saying they couldn&#x27;t enroll because of bad infrastructure is like saying the apple store is bad at enrolling customers with dead Iphone 10s to trial your combo therapy when most of the people they see have Iphone 15s. You need to enroll then where most people coming through have iphone 10s and this is precisely why they enrolled a significant proportion of patients ex-US because the standard of care elsewhere had not yet changed.<p>Props to the author for bringing up the important question of US competitiveness in drug development. But let us not forget that we have an enviable biomedical apparatus for a reason - the US has a strong track record of high standards and innovation because we have a good many rigorous, scientifically-minded folks who work on improving it all the time. It&#x27;s not perfect, but if we don&#x27;t call out the good, pioneering work that has been done here, then people may feel justified in questioning if anything has been done at all. One should not get the impression we&#x27;re just waiting around to get hyperdunked or just lucked into the good things we do have.
mmooss12 天前
Competing with it is a problem for conservativism. Some admittedly loose reasoning:<p>Conservativism preserves currently widely accepted structures, including ideas, by ridiculing and excluding new ones; social structures, by outlawing &#x2F; persecuting &#x2F; demonizing new ones as a threat to &#x27;our traditions&#x27; and &#x27;way of life&#x27;; businesses, through tariffs and other anti-competitive measures - the House GOP is considering a bill that reduces antitrust powers, for example; existing economic sectors, by government picking winners and funding them, limiting the economy to what is popular and that the government already understands, such as manufacturing; etc.<p>Remember the land of the individual, of personal freedom, of opportunity, that by its culture generated invention and innovation that other places, without that culture, couldn&#x27;t match. What China, which is limited by central control, is doing is copying well-established innovations - a biotech industry that relies on clinical trials. Cutting edge stuff - decades ago.<p>What has made the US successful is creating, innovating, and moving on to the next thing - things the government and most of the public are far behind on. Look at the boom in the IT industry over the last several decades (also no longer cutting edge except in limited ways).<p>How can that happen now? The US has currently embraced relatively extreme conservatism. People are afraid to offer challenging ideas, and make their money from rent and from squeezing revenue from old ideas (the stereotypical private equity model). They can&#x27;t go anywhere except by pleasing the oligarchy, now including the government.
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nujabe12 天前
What’s new? America is cooked.
buyucu12 天前
China is having a boom in everything, not just in clinical trials.
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monero-xmr12 天前
If China actually makes pharmaceutical breakthroughs, the West should immediately steal them and invalidate any claims of patents. They do not respect US intellectual property rights
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