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Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas (2024)

43 点作者 voxadam14 天前

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sys3276814 天前
Interesting the Guardian posted a similar article also mentioning Yarvin, also with a scare word in the title (&quot;Maga’s sinister obsession with IQ is leading us towards an inhuman future&quot;):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2025&#x2F;apr&#x2F;28&#x2F;maga-iq-inhuman-future-intelligence-ai" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2025&#x2F;apr&#x2F;28&#x2F;maga-i...</a>
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mmastrac14 天前
I thought I remembered seeing the moldbug blog pop up on HN a ways in the past, but it doesn&#x27;t appear to have gotten much traction in the past (and moldbug never really got much traction via comments either):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?q=unqualified+reservations" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?q=unqualified+reservations</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;query=moldbug&amp;sort=byPopularity&amp;type=story" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;que...</a>
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iwanttocomment14 天前
It was a truly strange experience being in San Francisco in the mid-aughts, with the vibes quickly turning away from the idealistic but flawed freaks and geeks (now largely retired) to the brogrammers and techbros of the latter half of the aughts who are still with us today.<p>It&#x27;s as if the techbros tried to emulate the positive aspirations of their hippie-tech forefathers and, over the past decade, were just like &quot;naah, forget it.&quot;<p>Once upon a time, we geeks truly believed that computing and telecommunications would bring us together. It&#x27;s truly depressing seeing this generation of money-addled idiots set us back thousands of years using the tech we created.
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beardyw14 天前
Is it just me or does anyone else think of Harry Ellis the guy in Die Hard who tries to negotiate with Hans Gruber.<p>Maybe just me.
motohagiography14 天前
There are loose analogies to Yarvin, where Bill Ayers had a similar relationship to Obama, Aleksander Dugin&#x27;s relationship to Putin, Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein&#x27;s influence on the Blair and Clinton cabinets, Ayn Rand&#x27;s influence on the Reagan cabinet, Karl Popper&#x2F;George Soros&#x27; influence on the Biden org. Klaus Schwab even became a kind of Rasputin cult figure to the CANZUK countries over the last decade.<p>Yarvin&#x27;s ideas aren&#x27;t really that interesting owing to once being described as doing for words what bitcoin did for electricity. My read was they are reaction to history downstream of Marx, which was itself an anti-clerical reaction, and this &quot;reaction to a reaction,&quot; is a hollow simulacrum that takes in productive minds. Where Yarvin fails is that his atheism is a constraint that means he has to sound everything out from scratch again. Whenever I read his stuff all I see is a philosophical game of &quot;God is lava.&quot;<p>If there is any predictive power about this admin from Yarvin&#x27;s ideas, I&#x27;d look for precedents in what the WEF network did with the EU&#x2F;CANZUK in the background after co-opting Karl Roves &quot;actors of history&quot; mentality in the last decade. Change you can&#x27;t see until after, ratcheting effects, exercising hard power, etc. not anti-democractic, but post-democratic, where america is healing from decades of capture and democratic failure.<p>I don&#x27;t think, other than maybe the sentiment of restoring the legitimacy of america&#x27;s elite, that Yarvin&#x27;s ideas influence anyone that much. They absolutely emboldened people to question the progressive narrative machine by showing how alternatives were rich and historically deep, but the moldbug show itself is limited. Insights into Vance and this admin will come more from thinkers with popular traction like Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas Sowell, and the stories of American heroes that are examples of the essential American character, and not anti-heroic critics like Yarvin.