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Thinking This iPad Mini Thing Even Througher

123 点作者 raganesh将近 13 年前

23 条评论

alwaysinshade将近 13 年前
For anyone wondering why Daring Fireball is able to garner a lot of attention (and for that matter, almost any article pertaining to Apple) I refer you to two studies:<p>- When, Why, and How Controversy Causes Conversation by Zoey Chen and Jonah Berger<p>- What Makes online Content Viral? by Jonah Berger and Katherine L. Milkman<p>Results from the first study reveals that controversy significantly affects likelihood of discussion. The second study comes to a similar conclusion but fleshes it out a little more eloquently:<p>"Importantly, however, our findings also reveal that virality is driven by more than just valence. Sadness, anger, and anxiety are all negative emotions, but while sadder content is less viral, content that evokes more anxiety or anger is actually more viral. These findings are consistent with our hypothesis about how arousal shapes social transmission. Positive and negative emotions characterized by activation or arousal (i.e., awe, anxiety, and anger) are positively linked to virality, while emotions characterized by deactivation (i.e., sadness) are negatively linked to virality. More broadly, our results suggest that while external drivers of attention (e.g., being prominently featured) shape what becomes viral, content characteristics are of similar importance (see Figure 2). For example, a one-standard deviation increase in the amount of anger an article evokes increases the odds that it will make the most e-mailed list by 34% (Table 4, Model 4). This increase is equivalent to spending an additional 2.9 hours as the lead story on the New York Times website"<p>Apple is well known for controversy and Gruber is known for his snark (though I found this article to be insightful speculation) - the two seem to really complement each other and a lot of their success comes down to their behaviour. So for anyone who feels inclined to write another "Why is Gruber on HN?" post, that's why.
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ghshephard将近 13 年前
I'm not sure what's gotten into Gruber lately, but not only is this entire essay basically attitude free, he's also got a lot of content, and, dare I say, math/geometry in this piece?<p>He gives credit to Digitimes of all orgs for the original (March!) prediction of a thin-bezel ipad - and goes out on a bunch of limbs predicting what the new iPad Mini might look like. In particular, his weight prediction, of 265 grams, is somewhat hard to believe - but would be very much appreciated by those of us who spend 2-3 hours a day reading books on our (somewhat overly large for that function) iPad.<p>I guess we'll know in another 30 days.
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twoodfin将近 13 年前
I'm glad Gruber seems to be writing more of these long form pieces. Short and snarky is not as much of a strength for him as he thinks it is.<p>On the content: Right on. I will definitely be surprised if the words "thinner" and "lighter" do not feature prominently in Apple's keynote, both vs. the Retina iPad and the Google/Amazon competition.
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mcantelon将近 13 年前
&#62;If you think these stories appearing within a day of each other in the two most-respected business publications in the U.S. — at the same time the Nexus 7 reviews began appearing and the device started shipping to customers — is merely coincidental and not a strategic competitive leak from Apple PR, then I would like to invite you to play in my poker game.<p>&#62;The angle to these stories is not merely “Apple is set to release a smaller iPad”, but “Apple is set to release a smaller iPad and it could squelch the Nexus 7 and any other smaller tablets before they ever really get a chance to take off”.<p>Gruber will apparently even try to spin a "me too" response by Apple as genius.
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beloch将近 13 年前
I'm not a regular reader of daringfireball, but that blog post is very long on speculation and decidedly short on facts. It's random chance whether any of the resolutions, dimensions, weights, or features he settles on wind up proving to the true. This is firmly in the "Bluray support will be native in the next version of OSX!" sort of speculation.
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JVIDEL将近 13 年前
I wonder if Apple is going to replace the iPod Touch with this.<p>Think about it: the Touch didn't get a spec bump while the iPhone, iPad and even the AppleTV did, and it sells for the same price of a Kindle Fire, Nexus 7 or Nook Tablet, all popular small tablets in the category where this iPad mini would compete.<p>PMPs are dead mostly because the same kind of people who bought PMPs are now buying tablets and Apple can't make this new iPad too expensive or it will be too close to the iPad2 and consumers will buy that one instead, nor can it make the Touch cheaper or it will cannibalize the Nano.
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zachwill将近 13 年前
After reading both this and the iMore article, I really feel like Q4 this year is going to be like nothing we've ever seen. There won't be a reason for the average consumer <i>not</i> to get an iOS device. I think we're heading into a time where Apple's dominance will pass the threshold of what Microsoft had in the 90's.<p>And, if you consider a revamped TV is on the way in a couple years — man, we're talking about iOS in the living room, in your lap, and in your pocket. It's astonishing to think that the iPhone is only 5 years old at this point.
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DirtyCalvinist将近 13 年前
From the standpoint of a mobile developer and a user of one of Samsung's 7" tablets, the 7" form factor is too big for phone apps to really feel right on it, and too small for the big tab apps to be naively scaled down and feel right. So any Apple tablet at that size will suffer from a lack of good software until everyone catches up.<p>On the plus side, with the entry of an Apple device, there will be a much greater incentive to create workable design paradigms for the form factor, and both Android and iOS devices this size will benefit.
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Someone将近 13 年前
I do not see how anybody might think it would have iPad-like edges<p>An edge to place your thumb on must be about an inch wide. A 7 inch diagonal screen is 4 by 6 inch or so. With a one inch edge, the edge would be 16 square inches, or about a third of the area of the device. I do not see how they could sell you that (well, maybe, if they used them for solar cells and managed to power the device from it)
css771将近 13 年前
This was a very good piece from gruber and I say that as someone who has consistently hated his snarkiness and apple fanboyism in the past. He makes deep analyses of the ipad mini here and dare I say, sets himself apart as a key asset in the Apple tech press. There should be someone as capable of doing in-depth analyses in other tech fields too. I was thinking specifically about android device news. The folks at androidpolice are the best I know. But not of Gruber's calibre.
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hack_edu将近 13 年前
The thinness angle doesn't sound right to me and would be a bad decision to trade it for real features. Thinness is important, don't get me wrong, but nearly all iOS device users use cases.<p>The thickness of a case can often double overall size and weight in your hand. This that isn't going to change, probably ever.
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sasoon将近 13 年前
For me, ipad with 7.85" screen makes sense. You do not lose screen real estate because it is the same resolution as iPad 1 &#38; 2, it is easier to carry around, apps will not need new versions to support iPad mini. This is real size comparison of iPad 7.85" with iphone 4 and standard ipad: <a href="http://www.sizeall.com/compare/Apple-iPad-7-85-inch-mockup-Apple-iPhone-4-Apple-iPad-2-Wi-Fi/75" rel="nofollow">http://www.sizeall.com/compare/Apple-iPad-7-85-inch-mockup-A...</a>
greendestiny将近 13 年前
This all makes sense to me and I can see this being a successful product. I don't know if its too early yet, but normally when Apple telegraphs a new product people will fall over themselves to hype up the specs and decry it as useless if it doesn't meet expectations. That hasn't started happening yet - I can imagine Apple hates the over expectations but I wonder if the opposite is worse. Maybe this is just a better understood fit in the market, or maybe it hasn't sparked peoples interest in the same way.<p>Personally I'll definitely be buying one, but mostly because I'm very money conscious and would love a slightly bigger iOS device.
jonknee将近 13 年前
As a Kindle Fire owner I have to say the form factor of tablets this size is great. I just wish there was a better fix to the resolution issues. Limiting to low PPI for app compatibility seems like a hack.
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gte910h将近 13 年前
I think retina is very possible still:<p>iPad 2012 is 264 ppi at 9.7 inches<p>Gruber got a 7.85 in measurement somewhere (I think from a past article of his).<p>264ppi / 7.85 * 9.7 = 326 ppi<p>i.e., if they made a 7.85in iPad Mini, it would have the exact same DPI as a iPhone4/4S. I can COMPLETELY see this as a viable option, as they might be able to use some of the same lines as they do for the phones and they already know 326ppi is possible.
nazgulnarsil将近 13 年前
ipod touch thin = ridiculously fragile screen, like the macbook air.
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abuzzooz将近 13 年前
&#62; You might need more thumb-rest room on the sides than you do on the iPhone, but not nearly as much as you do on the full-size iPad.<p>Why? The iPhone is meant to be held in one hand and manipulated by the other. The iPad has a different use model and hence a slightly different design. How would the use model of the iPad mini be different?
samirsoriano将近 13 年前
Why don't you just wait for it to get released instead of obsessing over it ahead of time!
zerohm将近 13 年前
I enjoy reading Gruber quite a bit, but it's not for his snark or his analysis. It's for his perspective. He has lots of readers because he can connect the dots. He finds stories or details that may not seem relevant at first glance, but are signs of where things are headed.<p>He also loves to call bullshit on trashy link bait.
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mcpoulet将近 13 年前
I think the iPad Mini is just a huge misunderstanding. Here's what I think the iPad Mini really is : <a href="http://www.hteumeuleu.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/ipad-minnie.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.hteumeuleu.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/ipad-min...</a>
Kilimanjaro将近 13 年前
My prediction: iPad Mini in seven delectable colors for just $299.
atc将近 13 年前
Who the hell gives a shit?!
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newman314将近 13 年前
Um, I think it's supposed to be "more thoroughly". Just saying.
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