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Retailers will soon have only about 7 weeks of full inventories left

532 点作者 andrewfromx9 天前

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vanc_cefepime9 天前
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toddmorey9 天前
Curious if there is anyone here who genuinely sees this as short-term pain &#x2F; long-term gain for American economic interests. That is of course the political angle, but I&#x27;ve yet to see an economist concur with that theory.<p>EDIT: I can find very few voices (not currently working directly for the administration). There&#x27;s Jeff Ferry who believes &quot;tariffs imposed during the 19th century spurred industrialization and ultimately positioned America as a global superpower&quot;. (That historical view is uncommon and wouldn&#x27;t account for the current realities of global supply chains.)
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disqard8 天前
So, a toddler is shaking a snowglobe.<p>This entire section is full of people (not everyone, but several) analyzing it carefully, as if it were a scientist handling a moon rock inside the nitrogen environment of a glovebox.<p>I can&#x27;t see anything productive emerging from this post-hoc theorizing.
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faefox9 天前
I don&#x27;t think the population at large fully appreciates just how bad things could (and most likely will) get once these pre-tariff stocks are depleted. There is no magic wand to stand up new supply chains for the gazillion products we import from China overnight or even in the next several years. This promises to be more dramatic than the COVID supply shock only this time the damage will be <i>entirely self-inflicted</i> and - maybe - unrecoverable.
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qwertox9 天前
Add to this the lack of interest of serving others: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;jasonvonholmes&#x2F;status&#x2F;1910643605896908821" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;jasonvonholmes&#x2F;status&#x2F;1910643605896908821</a><p>TLDW: &quot;Americans are a bunch of babies, they&#x27;re hard to work with&quot;, which basically applies to all developed countries. It&#x27;s the same in Germany.
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alkonaut8 天前
The canary should be when the administration starts suggesting any economic indicators for the rest of the year are really due to the last administration and have nothing to do with this administration.
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Mr_Eri_Atlov8 天前
7 weeks until this Wile E. Coyote nation realizes there&#x27;s no ground beneath our feet and it&#x27;s a long way down.
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anon-39888 天前
I think the biggest damage from all this kerfuffle is this: why would anyone wants to invest the US anymore?<p>The US have a personality disorder that swings every 4 years.
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ck28 天前
Can you imagine empty shelves all summer in America like it&#x27;s soviet union?<p>Definitely going to happen because it will take months for shipping to return, just like the pandemic supply-chain disruptions.<p>And maybe the tariffs stay while manufacturing decides to wait FOUR YEARS instead of changing anything.
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MaoSYJ8 天前
this opens a interesting scenario where drug cartels may be the answer to a logistic problem since they already have the infraestructure for drugs. Could they diversify and smuggle tech products given their volume&#x2F;weight ratio?
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Someone8 天前
I’m surprised that 7 weeks of inventory is mentioned as being alarming.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;retalon.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;inventory-turnover-ratio" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;retalon.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;inventory-turnover-ratio</a> says<p><i>“The average inventory turnover across retail is around 9x”</i><p>That means they have about 6 weeks of inventory.<p>Of course, it varies by industry, but for many, that shouldn’t be alarming.<p>What do I misunderstand?
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apricot8 天前
If you elect a clown _twice_, how can you not expect a huge circus?
mediumsmart9 天前
I think they want to impose tariffs on everyone and then remove them from all that are willing to sanction china and help isolating it. 7 weeks should be more than enough to pull that off or fail. How beneficial it would be for the american economy either way I don&#x27;t know. I mean all these people are not intelligent. They are just busy.
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cynicalsecurity9 天前
I&#x27;ve never thought America could ever experience lack of goods. &quot;Deficit&quot; was a very well known term during the Soviet times and it was one of the reasons the Soviet Union collapsed. If Trump wants to destroy the United States, he is acting very efficiently by repeating the same mistake the Soviet leaders were making.
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tqi8 天前
If one were to assume there will be shortages in the near term (similar to early COVID), what staple items should one stock up on?
alchemist1e99 天前
Based on big box retailers in my area this is optimistic as with a keen eye one can already see huge numbers of missing products.
twodave8 天前
It feels like we are seeing the beginnings of somewhat permanent deglobalization. What happens if the US decides they just want to trade with South America, Canada and Western Europe and stops doing business with the rest (including pulling their navy out of all the places they currently patrol, which I think is maybe the most dramatic thing that could happen)?
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k4rli9 天前
*American retailers<p>An important detail.
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misiek089 天前
Again, like during COVID, few people will earn gazillions. They will have stock and they will push it slowly into market with extremely high prices accepted by consumers. It is very smart what they are doing, like always - and the only thing that matters is money.
nurettin2 天前
I&#x27;m long all manners of inflation. Spreads, indexes, everything. Should be enough to retire.
SkyMarshal8 天前
De-coupling from an authoritarian adversary is a worthwhile objective, but there are more competent ways of doing that.<p>Back in Trump&#x27;s first term he put up some targeted tariffs. They were reasonable, effective, non-destructive to the economy, and Biden actually kept them. Good trade policy often become bipartisan.<p>There&#x27;s a way to repeat that success. To effectively incentivize supply chain re-shoring, without destroying the economy and stock market, and being so effective and smart that the next administration keeps the policy, even a Dem admin. Which is:<p>1. increase tariffs gradually, stepwise, over the first two years +&#x2F;- of his admin. Also get the math right, not 4x too high.<p>2. tariffs only on China and other adversaries, not our democratic friends and allies. China is the main economic problem anyway, not EU, Canada, Mexico, Japan, etc.<p>3. use other tools in addition to tariffs like tax policy for manufacturers (tax credits, accounting changes around equipment amortization, etc). Don&#x27;t be that guy with only a hammer for whom everything is a nail, diversify, use all the tools available.<p>A graduated, predictable, multi-pronged approach confers the policy stability and predictability companies need to forecast, plan, invest, and hire. That makes it more likely the next administration will continue the tariff policy, even a Dem admin.<p>But Trump and Navarro&#x27;s ham-fisted approach that tanks the stock market and causes shortages and inflation is not going to last. Companies won&#x27;t invest and hire under those circumstances. It will implode, potentially discrediting the entire concept in the public&#x27;s view, making it more difficult to implement an actually effective and sensible policy instead.
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dotcoma8 天前
MAGA? How about SUITPA?<p>Stock up in toilet paper again.
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mindcrash9 天前
April 27 2025: Port of Seattle - EMPTY<p>April 30 2025: Port of Rotterdam - Congesting shipment containers originally inbound towards the United States but halted (by Chinese exporters?). Also risking storage and transhipment of containers inbound to Rotterdam. (Heard on local news a few minutes ago)<p>If Trump keeps this up, within ~12 weeks he is not going to destroy the economy of the United States but the entire West...
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conductr8 天前
This all feels very familiar, I stocked up on toilet paper this past weekend just in case.
zoklet-enjoyer8 天前
Why is the president allowed to impose tariffs? Congress should have a say in it.
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fudged719 天前
Cue toilet paper panic Part II. Interesting to see how this plays out.
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solid_fuel8 天前
&gt; The U.S.-China trade war fallout has begun. The Port of Los Angeles anticipates plummeting cargo traffic until a deal on tariffs is reached, but the Trump administration has not indicated whether negotiations are happening. Time is running out, a JPMorgan chief market strategist said.<p>As is so often the case, Fortune is burying the lede here and making the situation look better than it is. The administration _has_ indicated that negotiations are happening, but China has denied that any such negotiations have occurred [0]. Given the trump administration&#x27;s horrendous track record of blatant lies, there is no reason to believe them.<p>In the best case, there are quiet negotiations going on, but there&#x27;s a real chance here that trump is fully losing his mind, his mental state has been on the decline for years and the things he says are becoming more incoherent by the week.<p>I am more inclined to believe that there are effectively no ongoing negotiations, and our trade policy is being determined largely by whoever gets the last word in with trump before he tweets something idiotic. This is an unsustainable situation.<p>If you live in the US, now is an excellent time to contact your senators and representatives and demand some accountability.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbcchicago.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;money-report&#x2F;china-insists-no-tariff-talks-underway-with-trump-and-xi-or-top-aides-despite-u-s-claims&#x2F;3732264&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbcchicago.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;money-report&#x2F;china-...</a>
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EasyMark8 天前
So we&#x27;re recreating the covid supply chain crisis on purpose so Trump can try and build an island, fortress America? Seems like a great idea put forth by great people.
slowmovintarget8 天前
&gt; “Nobody wins,” he said. “China is America’s factory.”<p>This is the real problem.
inverted_flag9 天前
What&#x27;s everyone stocking up on before the shortages begin?
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senectus18 天前
given how people behaved with toilet paper during covid... I would expect that timeframe to reduce significantly faster than 7 weeks.
AndriyKunitsyn8 天前
With absurd tariffs like Trump&#x27;s, it would be cheaper to re-export goods through a third country. Why haven&#x27;t American retailers employed this?
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joleyj9 天前
... says Bill Maher.
bArray9 天前
&gt; While President Donald Trump pressed pause on his sweeping tariff regimen and placed a 10% blanket tax on other countries, he taxed China more. He placed a 145% tariff on China, which retaliated with a 120% duty on American goods. No trade deal has been made, and it is unclear whether there are negotiations happening. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has put the onus on China to come to the table and ink a deal. Still, just under half of the port’s business emanates from China, Seroka explained. So things could be bleak until then.<p>Fundamentally this is a game of chicken, and China will definitely blink first. This will be for a few reasons:<p>1. Unemployment in China is rocketing. Prior to the trade war in February it was sitting at an estimated 16.9% [1] (although it&#x27;s difficult to believe the stats). In the US it sits at about 4.2% [2], which feels about right with the UK at 4.4% [3]. China doesn&#x27;t have the &quot;disadvantage&quot; of a significant welfare system, but these people will become increasingly desperate to survive and burden the system in one way or another.<p>2. With unemployment so high in China, demand for jobs is increased and the salaries are decreased. With less excess money, domestic spending is largely reduced. With the excess stock produced for the US market no longer being delivered, manufacturers look to dump into the domestic market at below cost just to recoup some of their investment and to pay back the supply chain. Remember that with such low margins, manufacturers often get supplies on the promise of payment upon selling the goods they prepare. You&#x27;re looking at complete supply chain disruption from top to bottom even if the manufacturer didn&#x27;t export to the US.<p>3. The Chinese housing market continues to be an extremely large problem. Housing represents approximately a third of their economy and you have several key problems. Prior to the trade war, Chinese property developers were having customers buy properties (with mortgages) before ground was broken and using this money and borrowing to develop the properties at relatively low margins. Due to corruption and corner cutting, a considerable number of these buildings were &quot;tofu dregs&quot; (meaning poorly constructed). Despite these cost cutting measures, there was still not enough money available to develop the promised properties. This lead to the likes of Evergrande, Country Garden, Zhongzhi, Vanke, etc, to (begin to) fail. The customer&#x27;s money is gone and the bank paid it out to the developer, so the customer is still on the hook for a property that doesn&#x27;t exist - the bank tells them to pay up and to take up their issues with the property developer. Even those that managed to get a property found that the developers were desperately liquidating properties at discount rates to cover debt interest, lowering the value of properties in the market. With reduced income, increased mortgage rates due to instability, some look to sell their properties and escape the backlog of missed mortgage payments. Those people may find their property devalued by some 50%, and that they still have an outstanding debt despite selling the property and receiving no equity due to the devaluation of the property.<p>Although not outwardly said, the Chinese leadership have long considered themselves at war with the US. They have celebrated every issue the US has had, reacted negatively when the US experiences wins, and generally want to see the US fail. We&#x27;re talking about the same CCP of the Mao Zedong era that considered the UK, US and Japan as enemies to crush. This is why that despite very obvious economic issues being experiences, the CCP refuse to negotiate.<p>&gt; “What we’re going to see next is retailers have about five to seven weeks of full inventories left, and then the choices will lessen,” Seroka told CNBC. That doesn’t mean shelves will be empty, but in Seroka’s hypothetical, it could mean if you’re out shopping for a blue shirt, you may see 11 purple ones—but only one blue that isn’t your size and is costlier.<p>Maybe you can&#x27;t find a blue shirt for a while and have to wear a purple one whilst textile manufacturing is scaled up in other asian&#x2F;middle-eastern nations, but things could be far worse.<p>&gt; Earlier Tuesday, Gabriela Santos, JPMorgan Asset Management chief market strategist for the Americas, told CNBC: “Time is running out to see a lessening of the tariffs on China.” Everyone knows the tariffs are unsustainable, she said, but markets need to see them actually drop.<p>Translation: The tariffs will affect <i>our</i> bottom line. Remember that JPMorgan as an entity do not care if jobs are lost in either the US (historically) or China (currently), as long as it does not affect their margins. The idea that JPMorgan does well and so does the US populace is wishful thinking.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;china&#x2F;chinas-youth-jobless-rate-rises-169-february-2025-03-20&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;china&#x2F;chinas-youth-jobless-rat...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tradingeconomics.com&#x2F;united-states&#x2F;unemployment-rate" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tradingeconomics.com&#x2F;united-states&#x2F;unemployment-rate</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ons.gov.uk&#x2F;employmentandlabourmarket&#x2F;peoplenotinwork&#x2F;unemployment" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ons.gov.uk&#x2F;employmentandlabourmarket&#x2F;peoplenotin...</a>
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rustcleaner8 天前
Oh s***it son, muh long-dated puts on retail and calls on gold &amp; silver are gon&#x27; print y&#x27;all!
foobar19629 天前
American retailers. The rest of the word is only seeing rushes on popcorn, which we&#x27;re eating as we wait to see the what happens.
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deadbabe8 天前
Someone help me figure out: Shouldn’t anti-capitalists be cheering this on? Way less consumption and incentives for businesses.
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mustyoshi9 天前
Next week&#x27;s volume will be down, but the next next week is back up to last year&#x27;s volume...?
macinjosh9 天前
Politics aside. American big box stores are full of so much junk no one actually needs. It is good for there to be a tax on it. Reducing consumption is great for the environment and our sanity.
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laweijfmvo8 天前
Can we NOT start another fake scarcity scare? Businesses are importing less (from China, in this case) due to tariffs because they expect demand to drop due to the increased prices that would be passed down to consumers. They are not going to stop importing goods that have inelastic demand, where everyone will just have to absorb the higher prices. PLEASE do not start panic buying, which does create [temporary] shortages and generally causes unnecessary harm :&#x2F;
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deadeye9 天前
We are at an inflection point in manufacturing. The next industrial revolution will combine AI and robots.<p>Manufacturing jobs of the future will be fewer and higher in the value chain, requiring technical abilities. Workers won&#x27;t be mindless stamping parts over and over.<p>Now, the question is, do you want our adversaries to develop and own this new era or do you want the US to lead this next generation of industrialization?<p>Finally, if you don&#x27;t think China is our adversary, then we&#x27;re not living in the same reality.
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