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Ask HN: When will Wayland eclipse X?

12 点作者 Rooster6111 天前
Right now, I'm seeing between 80% and 93% usage of X in favor of Wayland, depending on which source I'm reading. I'd like to see Wayland get more traction, but I'm also aware that many of the things that make it appealing directly cut into its usability due to the many tools and hacks that rely on X's inherent security holes. How long does HN think it will take Wayland to pass the 50% mark in terms of usage across the Linux ecosystem?

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rbanffy11 天前
For me, it's the default and, therefore, the one I use. I miss xkill, but that's about it. The other day I was a bit annoyed when I ssh'd into my other laptop downstairs and an app I started there (don't remember what) started there instead of forwarding the window to my desktop. This is the feature I miss the most, and I'm sure it'll eventually get there.
JohnFen11 天前
I have no idea. I continue to use X intentionally, because I use some features it has that Wayland doesn't replicate.
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beanjuiceII11 天前
I'd say when wayland decides to take users needs more seriously
nobody999911 天前
I use XFCE[0] which doesn&#x27;t have full Wayland support[1]...yet.<p>I&#x27;m not opposed to using Wayland, but I am a dedicated XFCE user. As such, I won&#x27;t move to Wayland until XFCE <i>fully</i> supports it.<p>And once it does, I assume my preferred distro (Fedora[2]) will make Wayland the default for XFCE (as it already does for Gnome and KDE).<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xfce.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xfce.org&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.xfce.org&#x2F;releng&#x2F;wayland_roadmap" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.xfce.org&#x2F;releng&#x2F;wayland_roadmap</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.itsfoss.com&#x2F;fedora-41-gnome-wayland&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.itsfoss.com&#x2F;fedora-41-gnome-wayland&#x2F;</a>
neilsimp111 天前
Where is your source for 80-90% using X11?<p>My assumption would be that by now, it would be 80+% on Wayland.
Vilian11 天前
Hardware survey shows more than 50% wayland usage a few months ago, it harder to have a correct survey, how much of those 80% is just legacy systems that don&#x27;t update anymore, or don&#x27;t matter?, like a car dashboard, it uses x11 but noone would count it, or make applications for it, the correctly measure is limiting it to desktop use, and places where update and new applications care about
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bjourne11 天前
Ime it doesn&#x27;t work well on old gpus. E.g., on my Quadro P400 desktop I still use xorg because it is much snappier. On my new laptop with Arc it is still slower, but I can live with it since the animations are smooth.
the_dude_10 天前
I had constant issues with Wayland in Plasma using KDE Neon. I tried again recently and it seems better now.<p>I guess I can blame my docking station and the DisplayLink drivers.<p>Now Wayland is my default session and no issues so far.
brudgers11 天前
<i>I&#x27;d like to see Wayland get more traction</i><p>That’s the problem with Wayland.<p>What you like, is not an engineering criterion.<p>Wayland breaks my working system.<p>That is a good definition of badly engineered.<p>If you want adoption, cowboy up and make it backward compatible.<p>Good luck.
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kevinherron11 天前
I’ve been using Wayland since it became the default in Fedora. These days it seems to be working great. I’m especially happy with how well KDE seems to work on Wayland now.
dcminter11 天前
Ubuntu&#x27;s default is Wayland, so I&#x27;m surprised that doesn&#x27;t sway things more - I thought Ubuntu had about ⅓ of the market for Linux desktops.
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runjake10 天前
I was under the impression, and my anecdata seems to support, that Wayland already had the majority.<p>Where are you seeing such high figures for X?
Am4TIfIsER0ppos11 天前
When it works. Last time I was on it kde was resetting screen brightness to 100% everytime they woke. The time before I crashed it by dragging a url between windows, not the source or destination programs but wayland itself dropping me back to the console.