AfD classified as extreme-right by German intelligence

&gt; They argued their party was being &quot;discredited and criminalised&quot; shortly before the change of government.<p>The AfD is known for their narratives of perpetual victimhood. They conveniently ignore any and all proof, and hope that their followers only get their information from them. It has worked great so far so it&#x27;ll probably continue to work.

this is relevant on HN because AfD is the political party that got massive campaigning support by Musk, directly through endorsements and indirectly on X&#x2F;twitter.

The more austerity for the people the more popular extremist parties will become. Banning them will just stoke the fire.<p>The ruling clases are blinded by their greed. Throw the starving people more than a few crumbs and the appeal of extremist parties will drain away. Its politics 101.

Guess this will be unpopular.<p>&gt;The AfD came second in federal elections in February, winning a record 152 seats in the 630-seat parliament with 20.8% of the vote.<p>What does this give german intelligence the power to do?<p>The german government is now monitoring the telephone, internet, and intercepting emails of their political opponents?<p>They MAY also be using informants and undercover agents?<p>The federal ministry of the interior MAY confiscate all the party&#x27;s assets and shutdown everything including their websites?

I’m not a German so take this with a massive amount of salt, but what makes them extreme-right? Is it the anti-immigrant stance or is there more that I’m missing? They just seem to be regular right wing by American standards.

Huh, I guess they did Not See this coming.

I wish there was tighter rules around what stays on the front page of HN. I come here for tech news or interesting nerdy blog posts not this stuff.

Now the election is over and everyone has decided that they really don&#x27;t want to form a government with them, the agencies are suddenly allowed to state the obvious without potentially embarrassing their future bosses.

This is ridiculous, it&#x27;s subjective, and it&#x27;s really punitive in a political way. The AFD has made huge gains in Germany, the people voted for that, how dare the intelligence service say oh, this is far right. It&#x27;s the same as if they had said, it was far left. The government has no business in deciding which party can field candidates. That&#x27;s the voters to choose.

Given that AfD represents ~20.8% of the vote, 25% of the Bundestag and have upwards trending poll numbers; we can probably start talking about the collapse of democracy in Germany if they aren&#x27;t allowed to engage politically as any other party. These numbers are too large to ignore.<p>I wish the Germans the best of luck and reiterate that declaring war on their own energy supply was probably a mistake.