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We have reached the "severed fingers and abductions" stage of crypto revolution

127 点作者 zdw6 天前

14 条评论

danaos6 天前
I went from early bitcoin adopter to early bitcoin skeptic and despite missing most of the gains I have no regrets. During the early days the crypto space was concentrated to small online communities. People were mostly interested about the technology and the talk of price was limited, in the context "mass adoption". Nowadays it's about the price and the memes. Add to that the money laundering, energy waste and these abductions. Too many smart people work on these pointless projects instead of useful tech that benefits society.
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flmontpetit6 天前
Baffles me how this industry is basically speedrunning through the troubled history of regular finance, and every piece of legislation and every institution has to be rebuilt from scratch even though the mechanisms and the problems are almost exactly the same.
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beloch6 天前
Banks are fortified and guarded for a reason. If you have money in bitcoin, it&#x27;s only as secure as your person and whatever you use to access your crypto assets.<p>If you had a million in gold, would you leave it on your desk? Walk around with it on the street? Your odds of getting to where you&#x27;re going with the gold are pretty good in most places, but it&#x27;s still a big risk. Brag about or show that gold off to somebody, as many in this story did, and you rapidly become a target.
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walterbell6 天前
<i>&quot;French police free kidnapped Ledger executive&quot;</i> (Feb 2025), <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42819018">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42819018</a><p>Physical security primer for Bitcoin (2019), <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HUgPhPkS2yc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HUgPhPkS2yc</a>
vkou6 天前
The best part in all this is that once the transaction goes through, the kidnappers can definitively verify that they&#x27;ve received the ransom that they were asking for, and that they no longer have any use for loose ends or witnesses.
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eru6 天前
Stealing most crypto money is about the dumbest thing ever, because all transactions (for most such currencies) are open to the public to scrutinise and de-anonymous at their leisure. And the police is included in &#x27;the public&#x27;.
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Duwensatzaj6 天前
Could be worse. In Russia someone discovered a fake prison and incinerator in a police officer’s home.
akimbostrawman6 天前
Turns out having a publicly visible bank balance is a bad idea. If only there existed a better coin without that issue...
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anacrolix6 天前
My takeaway from this is people are still turning a blind eye to the shenanigans of the much larger mainstream markets where shit like this happens all the time but is not amateur.<p>The whole system is rigged. Yes, crypto too.
littlestymaar6 天前
I&#x27;m honestly surprised this hasn&#x27;t been more prevalent, especially since state actors (NK at least) have used cryptocurrencies to get foreign currency for several years now. No matter how rich and paranoid you are, there are really little you can do to protect yourself from a state actor that wants to get you, especially in an era of ubiquitous digital tracking from tech company that are willing to sell all the Intel they have about you to the highest bidder.
ajb6 天前
This was apparently reached in Russia a while back, and became very advanced: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;threadreaderapp.com&#x2F;thread&#x2F;1579124072390463488.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;threadreaderapp.com&#x2F;thread&#x2F;1579124072390463488.html</a><p>&quot;In contrast, Russian cryptobros that I know tend to act very, very lowkey. The fewer people know about your activities, the better. Posting about dealing with crypto in social media is absolutely unthinkable. Why? Because that makes you too easy and lucrative prey &quot;<p>&quot;Most likely explanation:<p>Russian federal prison officer built an underground prison as an exact copy of a real prison. There he persuaded kidnapped ppl they are in a real prison. They&#x27;d give him wants he wanted, then he&#x27;d kill &amp; burn them. In 2018 he died, prison was abandoned&quot;
logicallee6 天前
This happened to me, with the difference that nobody was abducted.<p>Defense contractors associated with the U.S. military said they would sever fingers to make me &quot;care more&quot; here is a screenshot:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;eYP7Xsj" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;eYP7Xsj</a><p>or<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;DD6XTppy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;DD6XTppy</a><p>This was sent over a Department of Defense channel.
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Havoc6 天前
Yeah maybe don’t post online about it if you own a ton of crypto
dandanua6 天前
Reached? It&#x27;s been happening for over a decade. Gosh, even the Bitcoin creator was probably murdered by &quot;opportunists seeking to solve world hunger&quot;.
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