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XAI's Grok suddenly can't stop bringing up "white genocide" in South Africa

217 点作者 k33l0r2 天前

11 条评论

sigmaisaletter2 天前
&gt; maximally truth-seeking AI, even if that truth is sometimes at odds with what is politically correct<p>It is certainly and undoubtedly a big coincidence that his happens to the chatbot of a white South African just when the topic is in the news again due to Trump&#x27;s granting refugee status to some white South African farmers.
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ZeroGravitas2 天前
I wonder if any last minute homework essays, business plans or lawsuits will have a random white genocide tangent in them as a result?
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_tk_1 天前
Why would this be flagged? The chat bot on one of the biggest platforms in the world has apparently been configured to spout conspiracies. I’m not sure what would be on topic for HN if not this story.
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pixelpoet2 天前
As a white South African who got out in 2007, while there&#x27;s obviously no &quot;white genocide&quot;, it&#x27;s still pretty much the crappiest place to be as a tech &#x2F; programming guy (or just anyone who likes having electricity). Pretoria (where Musk is from) in particular was terrible, Cape Town less so. Best decision I ever made.
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awongh2 天前
What&#x27;s an actually non-tinfoil hat technical explanation of the workflow that would have to happen for this to be implemented?<p>Elon is known for his capricious demands, (for example reports that he made the algo promote his own tweets more) how easily feasible is it to implement, &quot;make it so Grok stops denying white genocide&quot;? Is it just some kind of LORA you put on top of the base Grok model? It even sounds like it could be as simple as changing the text of the system prompt.<p>I wonder how often this happens (to any big model) without anyone noticing.
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ChrisArchitect1 天前
Earlier: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43987266">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=43987266</a>
ujkhsjkdhf2341 天前
This is meta because the immediate flagging of anything tangentially related to Musk or Trump is tiring and the exact opposite of critical thinking. Despite knowing that Hacker News rulers love Musk and Trump, I would expect better from the alleged critical thinking community. If this were Google instead of Grok, it would be front page. Oh wait, it was Google at one point[0] and it was front page.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39465250">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39465250</a>
neves2 天前
Welcome to the our dystopian present.<p>Sure this was a reinforcement learning gone wild<p>The IAs trained by billionaires will colonize our minds. Everyone will think that the political system supported by Musk father is a reasonable one. It was Apartheid.
incomingpain1 天前
The linked Musk comment where a minor political leader is singing kill the white farmers:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businesslive.co.za&#x2F;bd&#x2F;national&#x2F;2024-05-30-julius-malema-singing-shoot-the-boer-is-not-hate-speech-sca-rules&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businesslive.co.za&#x2F;bd&#x2F;national&#x2F;2024-05-30-julius...</a><p>Supreme court ruled that it was not hate speech.<p>In context, south africa has been expropriating land from white owners due to historical racist inequalities. There&#x27;s a great deal of tensions on the subject.<p>Statistically, there is significant violence against white farmers in South Africa. However, the counter to genocide is that the country&#x27;s overall murder rate is among the highest in the world. The problem is because there&#x27;s so many white farmers that it&#x27;s skewing the data?<p>South Africa during no war has a murder rate of 45 deaths per 100,000 per year. One of the worsts in the world.<p>The Gaza war since 2023 has roughly a ~20 deaths per 100,000 per year.<p>Ukraine war is roughly ~25 deaths per 100,000 per year.<p>My unpopular opinion:<p>The government isnt the one committing the genocide. The courts failed to punish this political leader&#x27;s hate speech and stochastic terrorism, leading to genocide of white farmers.
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jl62 天前
It&#x27;ll be worth it if the backlash is what brings about an end to &quot;genocide inflation&quot;. Seriously, just because you don&#x27;t like something, or even if it&#x27;s really bad, doesn&#x27;t make it genocide.
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Copenjin2 天前
That weirdo is really improving all products he touches. Please use words correctly and demand a government able to gracefully fix poverty, crime and public safety issues. Every issue is fixable with enough effort and money. Dumbed down discourse and nonsense ranting never fixed anything.