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HN vs Reddit: 50 vs 15000 visitors. Shall HN add new channels?

16 点作者 cheshirecat将近 13 年前
When I posted my project on HN there were 50 visitors. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4333014<p>When I posted it on Reddit there were 15000 visitors. http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/y77hi/so_i_built_a_minimalist_forum_with_some_strange/<p>The problem is no one reads "new" on HN. Either you are on the frontpage or you are doomed. I have seen many quality submissions in "new" with 1 vote. A number of them are arguably more interesting than some of the blogposts on the frontpage.<p>Probably HN shall consider adding one separate channel for "Show HN", and another for "Ask HN". Currently there are just too many people competing for the frontpage. And different people are interested in different kinds of submissions.

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yehanyin将近 13 年前
There are many and many tricks about how to play with HN and force me to follow the tricks.<p>Usually I read HN news via RSS reader and glad with the quality of feeds. So in this case it's not bad to provide me the good contents to read. But I do agree that there are also many interesting posts in /newest when I started to submit the posts myself. There are no perfect solution but I hope there would be a better-work solution.<p>BTW, I posted a question on news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4412393 and want to know whether there are any places for me to get into segmented articles. It doesn't have to be in frontpage as long as it's related. It's ideal but would like to see what happens.
ScottWhigham将近 13 年前
It's weird that I'm the only one saying this but the purpose of HN isn't just for getting publicity/visitors. I know that, when I view "Show HN" posts, the only ones I click through are the ones that (a) seem interesting, and (b) seem like they are wanting to feedback for specific things that I think I can address. I like supporting the community as much as possible but a "hit" from me for a service/site/product that I'll never use is a waste for us both, right?<p>So #1, for me, if that I looked at your two submissions* and they don't do those things. "Show HN" works better when you are asking for help/ideas or seeking to be a part of a community. I know that your second post ends with the feedback request but, if that's what you wanted, you buried the lead, plain and simple. Both of your submissions read like press releases (and not very good ones). If you posted the same links/descriptions over on reddit, I'd guess the reddit hits were made up of 14950 spiders. That's just not text that inspires anyone to click.<p>And #2 would be that you don't have clickable links or even spell out a full <a href="http://" rel="nofollow">http://</a> address in your posts. You are thus forcing people to type it in the address bar, or to click the title and hijack off of HN to the site. After years of being here, I can tell you that it's always better to put the links in the description as well as make a comment with a clickable link. For whatever reason, pg doesn't make description URLs clickable but does make them clickable if they are in a comment.<p>All of that being said, I wouldn't be against a wider tag/attribute/categorization. I don't think there are enough "Ask HN" and "Show HN" submissions to warrant a separate forum for each though.<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4333014" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4333014</a><p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4354876" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4354876</a>
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ig1将近 13 年前
There is one. The "ask" link on the top bar will take you to a page containing only self-posts (ShowHN/AskHNs).
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rlpb将近 13 年前
I don't think this is a problem. Some things are of different interest to different audiences. HN is one audience, and that's where its strength is. If you want a system that supports multiple audiences, why not use Reddit?
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SuperChihuahua将近 13 年前
It was the opposite for me: 8000 from HN, 0 from Reddit
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