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Show HN: 5000 best movies

150 点作者 arekp超过 12 年前

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Zimahl超过 12 年前
The problem with these rankings (assuming they are from IMDB) is that they are more friendly to contemporary, Internet-age movies and TV. Anything older than about 30 years is significantly down further in the list.<p>As an example, I can't imagine a world where 'The Avengers' is better than 'Schindler's List', 'Godfather, Part 2', or 'Pulp Fiction' (just 3 examples).<p>A few stupid entries: #1721 'I Love Lucy' - easily considered by critics as the best TV comedy of all time yet barely in the top 20% of all tv and movies? I can't even find the MASH TV show, only the movie. Pretty weird considering that it's considered the 2nd best TV comedy of all time. #74 'Seinfeld' - considered the 3rd best TV comedy of all time. The internet is more friendly to this one. #15 'Game of Thrones (TV)' - fanboys strike again, or they just really like irrelevant nudity[1].<p>#1636 'The Constant Gardener' - it is an abomination that this is here, it's lower ranked than 'Super Troopers' (#1626), 'Iron Man 2' (#1610), and 'Soul Surfer' (#1599), just to name a few.<p>[1] <a href="http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of-thrones" rel="nofollow">http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of...</a>
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leejoramo超过 12 年前
At first I thought this was an awful list, but then I filtered it by date up to 1995 and I felt that the list made a lot more sense. Is this an issue that it takes 15 to 20 years to get settle on what is truly worthy? Or is it an issue with the dawning of the Internet Age?<p>There are plenty of films made after 1995 that I think are highly deserving. But in 20 years from now, will we look and say Return of the King out ranks Star Wars? Or The Avengers is better than 12 Angry Men? (The Avengers was decent popcorn fun, but what was the plot?)
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dundun超过 12 年前
Best movies(and TV shows) by decade (top 100 in parens):<p><pre><code> &#60; 1910: 4 (0) 1911-1920: 7 (0) 1921-1930: 48 (0) 1931-1940: 123 (4) 1941-1950: 168 (8) 1951-1960: 243 (10) 1961-1970: 297 (5) 1971-1980: 362 (13) 1981-1990: 583 (7) 1991-2000: 1030 (21) 2001-2010: 1937 (27) 2011-Now: 198 (5)</code></pre>
guard-of-terra超过 12 年前
If you try to go down this list, your head will explode. Half of top movies are highly bogus comices (sorry guys, they are), the other half are highly epic dramas. You just should not mix them on a single page. This is so wrong.<p>As the whole idea of an universal list is.
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steve8918超过 12 年前
How did you get this data? Did you screenscrape IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes?<p>If so, is there a legal issue with reusing this data? I actually don't know what the answer is, I'm curious if there is or not.
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getriver超过 12 年前
This is awesome! Only minor suggestion is to improve readability a little more. Font is way too small with too little space in between each entry.<p>Also, I got this error: <a href="http://cl.ly/image/2D2S1E020e0W" rel="nofollow">http://cl.ly/image/2D2S1E020e0W</a>. I think I clicked on Stanley Kubrick and then came back to the home page.
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pooriaazimi超过 12 年前
Very good implementation.<p>But please change the title to "500 best movies according to IMDB &#38; RottenTomatoes".<p>I mean, look here: <a href="http://5000best.com/movies/Stanley_Kubrick" rel="nofollow">http://5000best.com/movies/Stanley_Kubrick</a><p>Clockwork Orange is 46th, 2001 is 211st, and Lolita (Kubrick's version), 1018th. Best movie that poor, not-so-much-talented Kubrick has apparently made is Strangelove, which is 32nd "best movie ever made".<p>It's very informative to know what IMDB thinks <i>(for one thing, you know what movies to skip)</i>, but basing our "best movies" list on what they think is not all right.
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ekianjo超过 12 年前
Still trying to figure out why Avengers got such a high rating while it was one of the worst Marvel flicks I have seen so far. Even the action scenes are dead boring.
b_emery超过 12 年前
Very cool! I could have really used this a week ago, when the wife and kids were out of town and I had some free time to catch up on movies I've missed from the last 3.5 yrs.<p>What's the ranking criteria?<p>Also, being able to exclude based on categories (comedy, no animations, no family for example) would be a great feature.
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Avitas超过 12 年前
The HN article title says "5000 best movies" instead of "Fairly decent jumble of 5000 best movies with many of the best TV shows thrown in".<p>The HN title and site title are both mildly misleading.<p>I understand that your sources (RT &#38; IMDB) may have these mixed and it will take some time figure out what makes sense.
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akkartik超过 12 年前
Who has the most movies in the top 5000? Does anybody have more than Marlon Brando's 19?
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incision超过 12 年前
Looking at this list renews my appreciation for the Netflix recommendation engine.<p>Also, I think I'm going to re-watch #1772 - Sunshine [1].<p>1: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448134/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448134/</a>
unpsynd超过 12 年前
Giving more importance to the average rating in RT, rather than the tomatometer, would give a very different ranking. Avengers has more than a 10% lower average ranking than any other movie in the top 10.
personlurking超过 12 年前
Sorry this is off-topic but does anyone know why there are no independent Netflix services? I'm thinking back when you could go to your neighborhood movie rental place...well, now imagine that selection is specific (ex. Western) or curated, and also imagine it is online, available for viewing. Is this just too hard to get the rights to? How did local movie rental places get the rights to rent out films?<p>People sell pirated films on the street here in Brazil and I once heard of a cultured 'pirate' who only sold pirated, high-brow DVDs. It got me thinking
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moviewatcher超过 12 年前
I wanted to raise a point here, on the Internets (and I'm sure this will get downvoted into oblivion, but since I am a huge movie watcher [self-assessment based on large amounts of cash spent in theatres + Netflix], I will engage in this conversation anyway).<p>While some movies are transcendent, they are also highly subjective to their viewers tastes. As tastes change, so does the opinion of each generation and, thus, the ratings of those movies. As each generation disappears, why shouldn't the charts change, as that would be a reflection of the fact that each generation is different from the next one?<p>For example, I didn't think Star Wars was a great movie, even though I am a huge Sci-Fi fan! Most people would find this contradictory, but I can't argue with my tastes: I watched all of the episodes in 2009 and I said: "meh". Now, I am aware that at the time it had revolutionary graphics and it had a great impact on the film industry (which is why I dedicated the time to watch it in the first place). I can appreciate the impact it had in 1977, but in terms of absolute value it brought to me in 2009 - I can't justify the decision to vote for it as one of the top 10 best movies.<p>I noticed there is a strong bias coming from people who have watched Star Wars decades ago and only remember how awesome that movie made them feel at the time. I understand, I'm the same about the first 2 Terminator movies (since I'm in my late 20s) - there will always be a special place in my heart for them, but, realistically speaking, if I'd rewatch Terminator 1 or 2 right now, I wouldn't be as impressed with them as I was back then.<p>Obviously, it is unfair to compare movies from the 70s and 80s with the movies of today, but these charts do exactly this when they place The Godfather on 2nd place. Now the problem is that the placement suggests that Godfather 2 will be more enjoyable _today_ than The Avengers. Well, why should that be the case? My personal experience taught me otherwise.<p>Another example: the parent post mentions "I Love Lucy" as "the best TV comedy of all time", according to the critics. I'm constantly in search of good comedies and I watched the trailer to assess how much enjoyment I might get out it. I have to say - the IMDB trailer shows a primitive comedy and it didn't resonate with me, even though I'm not opposed to watching old comedies (Noises Off (1992) is one of my favorite "old" comedies). So I probably won't watch it, despite the fact that it was so highly acclaimed. Which then makes me wonder: how accurate are the ratings of the "critics"? If they're all in their 40s,50s and 60s (because it takes time to build a reputation as a critic), why would my generation listen to them and expect an accurate assessment of how enjoyable an old movie would be today ?<p>In conclusion, I'd like to suggest that maybe some movies naturally die out (in terms of rating) as a fact of life, just as old basketball players have to make room for new players, as they simply can't compete with the young ones. Perhaps there is a similar trend with movies, where modern technology coupled with a great plot simply creates a more immersive experience than old movies can, solely with their plot. If it is so, then we shouldn't disregard these charts just because "epic movie X from 100 years ago" ended up as #XXXXX.<p>Thanks for reading!<p>P.S.: Parent post should be Zimahl's "The problem with these rankings ... "
combataircraft超过 12 年前
Most of the movies here are crap made for people who don't have any sense of art. If you think the ones with highest scores are best, you don't even know what a good movie is.<p>Check out this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfTot3qYMc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfTot3qYMc</a><p>This is what a good movie is. It reflects the life as it is. It's not for entertainment. It's for art and people looking for good movie.
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arkitaip超过 12 年前
This is based on IMDB, right? Explains why the godawful "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Avengers" top the chart.
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amalakar超过 12 年前
A link to the canistrea.it would be helpful. It aggregats availability of movies in streaming/renting sites. Example: <a href="http://www.canistream.it/search/term/The%20Shawshank%20Redemption" rel="nofollow">http://www.canistream.it/search/term/The%20Shawshank%20Redem...</a>
a3_nm超过 12 年前
I find the "Writer" column strange. Sometimes it's the author of the screenplay, sometimes it's the author of a book from which the film was adapted, or out of which the film was inspired. It's strange to see Tolkien as the "Writer" of the LOTR movies.
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sehrope超过 12 年前
Can you add a column that shows if it's available on Netflix/Amazon/etc?<p>I'm always looking for a new way to find movies/series to watch and this list seems like a good one (I seem to agree with most of the ones I've seen near the top).
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davidbrent超过 12 年前
I love the simplicity of the data! The alignment of the checkboxes/filters in the top left bothers me though. With everything else aligned so well, anyway you could do the same to those?
waynesutton超过 12 年前
Wondering why 5000? It looks like the scores are based on "IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes." Which means some opinionated data by the "crowds".<p>Regardless IMHO gladiator ranked at #57 is my favorite.
engtech超过 12 年前
neat idea, I would be interested in how the score is calculated.<p>I tried restricting it to TV series, and I noticed an interesting trend that anything older than 2000 is pretty far down the list.<p>This is probably just a factor of pre-Internet TV shows not being well represented by number of reviews.<p>I see the same bias on sites like Rotten Tomatoes where if you look at an excellent movie before 1995, it will have few reviews (unless there were a bunch of reviews collected for the DVD / BluRay releases)
scoremotive超过 12 年前
Looks like a useful site. I would consider left aligning the title, writer, director and cast fields. It would help with readability when scanning the list.
philfreo超过 12 年前
Would be nice to know which of these are available on the various streaming services (Netflix Instant Streaming, Amazon Prime, etc.)
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mavhc超过 12 年前
Could you add the ability to link to a set of combinations of the check boxes? eg 5000best.com/movies/#tv&#38;1930-1965&#38;scifi
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paulsutter超过 12 年前
This would be a lot more useful if I could filter according to what is streamable from Netflix, Amazon, and iTunes.
m1ck超过 12 年前
<a href="http://www.top-5000.nl/imdb1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.top-5000.nl/imdb1.htm</a>
mosselman超过 12 年前
List is not very strong. As said by many others before me. @Zimahl being the first.
allbombs超过 12 年前
i know thumbnails take up lots of space, but I don't remember titles.. i remember movie covers. Adding thumbnails would help immensely, it's an extra click away.. but still an extra click
niklaslogren超过 12 年前
I like this! I'm looking forward to the book section.
brianfryer超过 12 年前
Could you add in a filter for "not animation"?
releasedatez超过 12 年前
Avatar is only 134!?
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cema超过 12 年前
How many?!
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hastur超过 12 年前
Maybe it's interesting technically, but what's the use of this site, if the movies are rated by retards? I mean, any ranking that puts Avengers in the first 1000 best movies is obviously deeply flawed.
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batista超过 12 年前
Avengers, Dark Knight and LoTR on the top 5? FAIL.