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A Private Bus Company Debuts in Detroit

93 点作者 kshatrea超过 12 年前

9 条评论

akgerber超过 12 年前
This is a party bus service to allow bar hopping in a car-dependent city when passengers are too intoxicated to drive. It only runs on Friday &#38; Saturday nights between a couple of suburban bars &#38; the downtown &#38; university district of Detroit. It might well be a good business (and certainly better than drunk driving), but it's not a meaningful substitute for functional mass transit.<p>Public transit systems require subsidy to permit service at unprofitable times of day &#38; to unprofitable regions of the city, interconnecting parts of a region to permit greater economic activity. Roadway systems are likewise unprofitable on their own. Most transit systems have at least a couple lines that are profitable.<p>In the New York City area, there is significant "dollar van" jitney service &#38; a large number of private bus companies, especially in New Jersey that provide commuter service, rather than serving as a substitute for drunk driving. Dollar vans of varying legalities are also common between Chinatowns &#38; Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods, as well as down Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn.<p>Flatbush Avenue also an easy place to observe the downside to privatized transit run by independent contractors-- the vans usually speed &#38; make dangerous maneuvers to move more fares more quickly, with the safety of other motorists, pedestrians, and cyclists often disregarded. This could be improved by the NYPD enforcing traffic laws, which would be my preference to replacing a useful service.<p>Unfortunately, nearly all American cities have onerous regulation on selling automobile rides to other people, while it's incredibly easy to get a driver's license and private automobile. This raises taxi prices &#38; means there often isn't timely bus/jitney service between popular destinations, which motivates a lot more people to purchase cars &#38; drive them.<p>The cost in car ownership is also mostly in the depreciation of the car &#38; insurance (which is monthly, rather than per-mile), so once a person purchases an automobile because they can't make a few trips by walking/biking/transit, they'll make a lot more trips by car.
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rickyconnolly超过 12 年前
As a European, I don't understand the significance of this. Why is the establishment of a private bus company such a big deal?<p>Is this not America, bastion of free market capitalism? Surely many cities must have private services.<p>Here in Ireland we have many private bus services running alongside public companies.
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mukaiji超过 12 年前
It's an interesting experiment. If it succeeds, it would be ironic that the solution to America's public transportation is coming from Detroit: after all, GM &#38; co are the guys who bought America's trolleys in the 1950's and disassembled them to boost sales of cars.<p>EDIT: related story on SF's private lines <a href="http://stamen.com/zero1/" rel="nofollow">http://stamen.com/zero1/</a>
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ebiester超过 12 年前
What I don't understand is how the Jitney hasn't been allowed by regulation in the US -- they're incredibly convenient, and a fleet of minivans from the key districts to various park n' ride locations would make a ton of sense.
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thrownaway2424超过 12 年前
This guy seems a bit mislead. There are definitely not 15 million people in metro Detroit. There are only 5 million people in the census area that includes Detroit, Ann Arbor, and Flint, and has an area over 15000 square kilometers.
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icebraining超过 12 年前
Related: <a href="http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2008/Mungerbus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2008/Mungerbus.html</a>
aristidb超过 12 年前
If they need to be five times more efficient, why is the plan to spend a lot of money on things that do not directly impact customer service, like giving away rides to poor people, and using self-produced Biodiesel?
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sfall超过 12 年前
I know $5 for an all day pass is not bad, cta in chicago is 5.75 for an all day pass but that is all the buses and the l train, but it also is bigger and subsidized. I only hope that they quickly add a 30 day pass.
darklajid超过 12 年前
Warning: This crappy site auto-played a video with LOUD sound (sounded like gunshots).<p>If you happen to be awake at four am while your pregnant wife isn't, avoid this site and remember the domain name..