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The Next 1,000 Start-Ups

210 点作者 daniel_levine超过 12 年前

22 条评论

callmeed超过 12 年前
Good move by BrainTree.<p>As much as I love Stripe and their innovative moves, the bulk of my business's transactions have been handled by BrainTree over the last 4 years. That includes both SaaS subscription billing and third-party payment aggregation (we do niche ecommerce, take a transaction fee, and ACH to customers). Our transaction fee is below the (now seemingly) standard 2.9% which adds up when you get to hundreds of thousands of dollars or more in processing. BrainTree's support is great ... I'm talking Rackspace-level great.<p>Some of you talk like BrainTree is an old-school behemoth which is being disrupted by Stripe, which is silly. News flash: BrainTree is not PayPal. Obviously they are all competitors, but I see nothing to indicate that BrainTree can't keep pace with Stripe moving forward.<p>I do use Stripe for things–and I do love it. But we wouldn't be where we are today w/o BrainTree.
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kami8845超过 12 年前
A cute marketing trick. No you're not doing this just because you want to "help new startups". That's a nice way of rationalizing it, but really<p>1) Braintree is suffering from the competition, especially on HN, Stripe is loved like no other<p>2) They're not giving away 2 million dollars. With so many startups failing to ever generate significant revenue, I wouldn't be suprised if less than 10% of companies that are the first 1000 to register actually wind up generating $50k in revenue through their service. I'm sure Braintree have their own internal calculations about how much this will cost them and that number is certainly no where near 2 million dollars.<p>3) The primary purpose of this is to bind new businesses to Braintree. The scenario of "getting their free processing here and then going somewhere else before they pay us a nickel." is cute, but misleading. At that point in the company's development switching the entire payments system is much more expensive and would not make any economic sense.<p>Props to Braintree for coming up with this, I think in the end it's beneficial to the startup community, though I dislike the "second coming of jesus christ"-vibe of the announcement. They're doing this for business reasons, not because they woke up yesterday and felt a little charitable.
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rkalla超过 12 年前
There are multiple aspects to payment processing with basic payment processing and integration being the minimum -- Stripe currently has the most beautiful story here.<p>Things get more complex on the back end of the payment being processed at scale, namely fraud detection and risk mitigation. This is where some of those behemoths in the industry actually shine more.<p>Stripe passes the risk directly through, you are on your own.<p>For a lot of folks here working on startups with their first few-hundred customers, that isn't the problem -- the problem is accepting payments and getting back to work. I don't see anyone beating Stripe in that game.<p>For the folks that have huge customer bases, mitigating risk and dealing with fraud is a much more frequent/costly problem and having a processor help out there is why companies like PayPal (and BrainTree?) are still in people's vocabulary even though a good majority of their experience on the front-end suck.<p>This is one of those problems that doesn't matter to you at all, until it does... then it is a huge nightmare and you scramble around looking for a solution and suddenly realize why "everyone doesn't just use Stripe" -- or some equally hot new processing startup.
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jbevain超过 12 年前
Interesting move. Too bad it's US only for now.<p>We're currently using FastSpring but both the recent opening of Braintree towards Europe and the price getting a clear 2.9% + $0.3 are making it pretty interesting.<p>Make a similar promotion for Europe and I'll probably switch.
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siculars超过 12 年前
This is classic competition at work. Along comes Stripe that forces companies that are not asleep, like Braintree, to compete on price or innovation or some other axes.
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sbashyal超过 12 年前
To provide some perspective, I did a calculation using their pricing information and assuming the average transaction size of $10 - the waived fee amounts to $2950.<p>edit - changed language to make it more meaningful
Murkin超过 12 年前
Please fix headline to:<p>"Braintree Waives All Fees On First $50k in Transactions For Next 1,000 <i>US-Based</i> Startups"<p>Might be a good idea to do this always, just a little thing to acknowledge the other 95% of the world..
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mcrittenden超过 12 年前
I wonder if Braintree has been suffering since Stripe launched and this is an effort to get things moving again.
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juddlyon超过 12 年前
Amidst all the weird negativity and to-and-fro, just wanted to say "DEATH TO PAYPAL API INTEGRATIONS!"<p>Go Braintree. Go Stripe. Go Recurly. Go CheddarGettar. Go Spreedly. Go whomever has the guts to tackle this beast!<p>Apologies to my friends at PayPal in case they read this....
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littlegiantcap超过 12 年前
Awesome! Payment processing is probably one of our biggest headaches, and this just gave us enough of a reason to try you guys out. Excited to try it out.
davidedicillo超过 12 年前
What about those startups that already have an account but not generating revenues since they just launched a week ago?
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thehodge超过 12 年前
yes yes yes!<p>"Note: we’re only able to offer this to start-ups with a presence in the US today. We recently launched in Europe and Canada and hope to be able to do something similar for international start-ups soon."<p>Oh... maybe later
TomGullen超过 12 年前
Excitedly rushed to sign up as we're interested in offering alternative payment solutions - disappointed as we're in the UK we can't and this wasn't immediately obvious!<p>Either way looks like a very cool offer!
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jobu超过 12 年前
The promotion is only available to "eligible merchants", but it is not clear what qualifies one as eligible.<p>Anyone from Braintree willing to clarify?
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xoail超过 12 年前
So 1000 startups, meaning 100 real new startups (I doubt startups that are already into payments using other platforms would switch), of which 10 or less startups could really do 50k in transactions, meaning 10x50000x0.027 = $13,500 (tops and not $1M) in loss for Braintree... But I am sure they are getting way too much marketing out for this.
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corkill超过 12 年前
Tell you the company that will get my business out of stripe, braintree and the others. The one that works out how to let us open an account without an SSN. Currently we are with SAASY for that reason, they charge 5.9%.
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pdenya超过 12 年前
Is this literally the next 1000 braintree signups or is that a marketing term?
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jcampbell1超过 12 年前
I have 900 different startups all with a variation of the name GiveMe50000FreeAmexPoints.com<p>I wonder if my startups are eligible. :)
wia超过 12 年前
Looks good for starting out. Reminds me, has anyone heard back from startuppack.org?
LukeHoersten超过 12 年前
This promotion doesn't apply to third-party payment aggregation businesses.
twodayslate超过 12 年前
It looks like they can't handle the traffic. Not a good sign for them.
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snambi超过 12 年前
Couldn't agree more.