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Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more

184 点作者 derpenxyne超过 12 年前

22 条评论

dak1超过 12 年前
If I had to wager a guess, I'd say this is probably due to the 18th Party Congress going on in Beijing right now, and that the block will be lifted sometime in the next week, once the transfer of power is over.<p>I <i>think</i> we may see some more moderates come to power, so I wouldn't expect this to continue. Whether or not Wang Yang gets a seat in the Standing Committee will be a good bellwether though.
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mtgx超过 12 年前
It seems they want to make an example out of Google: "If you disagree with our censorship, this is what will happen to you, too", and create chilling effects for any other company who's considering being "moral" in China.<p>I wonder if Obama will do this to China, too:<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/us-imposes-sanctions-on-iran-for-internet-censorship/" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/us-imposes-sancti...</a>
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beck5超过 12 年前
I was in China just last month and was surprised how openly everyone circumvents the blocks. I stayed in a very large 25+ floor 4* hotel where the entire free wifi went through a VPN. My Chinese friend said the government turn a blind eye because they know business needs it and they want the business.
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olalonde超过 12 年前
I'm located in Shenzhen, China and all those domains work as usual except for Google+ and Google Docs which have been banned for a while. Google DNS also works as usual. Even Google.cn redirects to Google.com.hk as usual. Guess I'm either lucky or this was a very short lived ban in the middle of the night.<p>edit: Reading the article again, it seems Google didn't actually confirm the block. They simply stated there was nothing wrong on their end. I also strongly doubt they got in touch with a Google China representative in the middle of a friday night. I smell link bait...
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lgleason超过 12 年前
If the Chinese want to block a US software company from doing business in China by blocking access to them, then the US should impose tarifs on any software outsourcing to China with stiff penalties for any companies trying to circumvent it.
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anchoring超过 12 年前
Chinese people are not just Americans without good internet access...<p>The Chinese propaganda/education/censorship system is set up to accommodate all levels of disbelief of propaganda - that's built in to the propaganda, too.<p>So there is the official line, then there's the unofficial official line - which is generated by being pessimistic relative to the official line.<p>If the official line is that 7 people died in a disaster, rumors will float around that it was really 70, and people hearing that will feel content, cause hey, 70 people is not a lot to pay for 20 years of good economic development. Since they're anchored by the official line, suspicions never jump to 7000 people died, 20k people had their lives destroyed, which may be the reality.<p>It's the same with corruption - if an official gets busted for embezzling, skeptics guess that his wife is still overseas with millions, he had a couple cars, mistresses - but now he got his due and will never get out of jail. But they never guess that he was the equivalent of a mob boss in his city, had peasants disappeared, isn't even actually serving jail time, etc. (because that story would never, ever be mentioned again.)<p>So, rumors slightly inflating the official line are allowed, even encouraged, since they strengthen that line. But rumors showing that the official line is totally fake are destroyed - any reporter who brings one up can look forward to a life in a small town working in a factory, no education for their child, and nobody would ever hear a word about it, anyway.
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caycep超过 12 年前
Hope this shoots the CCP in the foot. The interwebs are awash w/ the latest US election results, and viral youtube videos of Obama thanking his young twentysomething campaign staffers.<p>To give young Chinese such a glimpse of this and then brutally remind them that they don't have such luxuries of idealism and empowerment just highlights the failings of the CCP system even more...
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BryanB55超过 12 年前
Does anyone know what this means for US websites that use Google Analytics and are visited by people in China? Not that many of my website visitors are in China but I'm wondering if it will also stop the tracking code from working. I'm guessing it would since it won't be able to connect back to GA.
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CWuestefeld超过 12 年前
Aargh. I'm leaving for a vacation in China in a week and a half. I guess I'm going to have to set up my own VPN tunnel to ensure that I can still access my email, etc.<p>I'm assuming I can set something up through my dd-wrt router at home. Off to read the docs...
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mongol超过 12 年前
Google Docs were blocked earlier this year when I was in China. I had put part of my travel plan there so it was an inconvenience, but as I did not expect it I felt very offended by that.
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mmahemoff超过 12 年前
"Using a DNS server outside of China doesn’t help. A lookup of www.google.com to 8.8.8.8 is also distorted, by the Great Firewall."<p>Probably better to try that on a DNS server not owned by Google!
Intermediate超过 12 年前
I had problems accessing google services from China long before. I just started using proxy for all google websites, so I didn't even mentioned last changes
deviloflaplace超过 12 年前
In 15-20 years, a new generation that is aware that nothing can really ever be "blocked" on the internet will come to power.<p>Until then, long live dns servers &#38; vpn.
turingbook超过 12 年前
There should be nothing new. Google services are blocked for several years. But not every service is blocked in the same way.<p>Google+ and Docs is wholly blocked a long time ago. Google.com is blocked intermittently. Gmail and Maps are usually OK, but not very fluent these several days.<p>GFW is a mysterious monolithic and complex system. No outsider knows the rules and mechanisms.
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Shank超过 12 年前
They even took down the country specific access points - including Google.com.HK. Have they ever done that in the past?
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listronica超过 12 年前
I wonder if this is to do th google new offering and its possible attempts to bypass whatever firewall systems China have around its internet <a href="http://www.google.com.ph/intl/en/mobile/landing/freezone/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com.ph/intl/en/mobile/landing/freezone/ind...</a>
jiggy2011超过 12 年前
So , if you run a business or are a student or whatever and use gmail/google apps for email and have your important documents in google docs it's just FU I guess?
known超过 12 年前
<a href="http://viewdns.info/chinesefirewall/?domain=gmail.com" rel="nofollow">http://viewdns.info/chinesefirewall/?domain=gmail.com</a>
jdelsman超过 12 年前
What else is new?
bitcartel超过 12 年前
Android sales are strong in China but that might change as despite Android being open-source, over-the-air updates are a potential risk.<p>Thus it's quite likely that home-grown solutions will be encouraged to grow market share, at the expense of Google. Just recently, Acer started selling a phone based on Aliyun, a fork of Android backed by Alibaba.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyun_OS" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyun_OS</a>
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jamesbrennan超过 12 年前
I wonder how much revenue Google is losing from this.
antihero超过 12 年前
Why do people not use SSH tunnels/OpenVPN?
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