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What’s Up With Whatsapp? Facebook Might Want To Buy It, That’s What

37 点作者 shivam14超过 12 年前

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zack12超过 12 年前
Whatsapp is a little gem on a company which no one talk about. It's hard to get inside information about the company on the internet, and maybe that's the geniuses of co-founders. They don;t talk so much about the company and instead focus on building a quality product.<p>On a comparative note, the product is actually not so good(maybe because of the sacle they are operating on). They have problems with their backend, few of the front end apps are not so good eg blackberry but increasing number of users is an achievement which is the scary part for facebook. I am in Pakistan. This is a place where most people don't use credit cards on the internet, sms packages are dirt cheap like $1/month for unlimited texting, and we have no 3G internet(only EDGE) but still majority of the people use whatsapp. Almost everybody i know uses whatsapp and they have been using for more than a year. One you get hooked on whatsapp people are forced to pay.<p>Whatsapp has a lot of potential to challenge facebook to a certain extend. They introduced profile pictures a while back, and the 'last seen at' update is like a gold. Ramp up whatsapp with a few BBM like features, extensive photo sharing, and geo location features(anonymously chat with people near you) and they can be a worthwhile competitor.
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Apocryphon超过 12 年前
Did they fix the crucial security exploits pointed out previously?<p><a href="http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-is-broken-really-broken/" rel="nofollow">http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-is-broken-really-broken/</a><p>I guess they didn't.<p><a href="http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-security-fails-again/" rel="nofollow">http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-security-fails-again/</a>
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sssparkkk超过 12 年前
Am I the only one who's a bit sad that the biggest success of a nice open-standards protocol (XMPP) has been it's usage in a closed-down proprietary form? I mean, Whatsapp have done some cool stuff, but I really would have liked to finally see a dominant but open instant messaging network.<p>Howcome Google hasn't bought these guys?
kang超过 12 年前
My friends here in India use it because its free the first year. Almost everyone I know is on Whatsapp. But the moment they have to pay, everyone will switch. I know of nobody in person (who own the latest pretty expensive smartphones, except iphones which are not big in India) to have "ever paid for any" app.<p>Its not about being stingy, but more of a mentality where we know a hack/solution/pirated version/alternative will come around. It always does.
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sami36超过 12 年前
What BBM could &#38; should have been if those geniuses at the helm RIMM had any foresight. Apple made an iTunes version for Windows, Microsoft made Office for Mac. if those two could work past their differences for the sake of serving their customers, anyone can.<p>Early on, when iMessage was a pipe-dream &#38;Gtalk a usability mess victim of Google's "everything must be web" orthodoxy, RIMM could have made a killing selling a robust no-frills honest-to-God messaging app for Android, iOS, Windows Phone &#38; feature phones.What a waste.
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purplelobster超过 12 年前
Aaaand that's the day I stop using it.
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shmerl超过 12 年前
Repeating my comments from the previous thread which was deleted for some reason:<p>Why would people be OK with constant security risk, but not OK with one time registration step for normal XMPP service? XMPP clients are available for all major desktop and mobile platforms. So it's a really interesting psychological hook that Whatsapp developers catch their users on here, offering a completely inferior solution, with selling it of for the fake attraction. And it's a really nasty thing to do - to play on people's ignorance regarding security.<p>So why would Facebook want to buy this monstrosity? The only valid reason could be to convert it to proper XMPP, then I'd applaud them, but on the other hand Facebook's own IM service isn't federated, which defeats the purpose. So it doesn't look like it can improve Whatsapp in any way.
gghootch超过 12 年前
As a long time user who profited from their first free download promotion, I have been wondering how the hell whatsapp can remain profitable for many years to come. Moving to .99 cents/year sounds great, but expect a massive user exodus.<p>Many users out there are stingy as hell. I have actually heard people argue that they don't want an iPhone because you have to <i>pay</i> for whatsapp...<p>Let's hope that their dominance of the market is enough to incentivize users to pay forever. Oh, and that they do not actually sell out to Facebook.
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fmavituna超过 12 年前
Whatsapp is the perfect example of "solve something people need". You don't need to solve it "perfectly" or "10 times better".<p>Combined with network and lock-in effects, it's a great business on a good enough application and an obvious idea. Which makes it even more impressive.<p>P.S. I think many tried to do similar things before or after but failed. So I'm not quite sure what make whatsapp stand out. Any ideas? First comer? Better UX? Cheaper? Better cross-platform support? Better marketing?
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xoail超过 12 年前
Epic fail: "The messaging app has users in 250 countries".
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DanBlake超过 12 年前
They are up to 10 billion msgs a day now.<p>So incredibly crazy- More than 100k messages a second.
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jcfrei超过 12 年前
seems like a logical step for me. facebooks messenger is still lagging behind whatsapp in terms of features (ie. it lacks video and audio sharing) and most likely also in users. plus in the past year I've noticed quite a shift from communication on facebook to dedicated whatsapp groups. it's just a much more convenient way to share and chat with close friends and depending on the group you're in it can be kinda addictive. needless to say I would be very disappointed when whatsapp would become part of facebook (especially if it would be linked to my fb profile).
001sky超过 12 年前
<i>“At every company that sells ads, a significant portion of their engineering team spends their day tuning data mining, writing better code to collect all your personal data, upgrading the servers that hold all the data and making sure it’s all being logged and collated and sliced and packaged and shipped out… And at the end of the day the result of it all is a slightly different advertising banner in your browser or on your mobile screen. Remember, when advertising is involved you the user are the product.” [Koum's emphasis.]<p>And that is just one reason why a Whatsapp/Facebook acquisition would be a surprise. At other times, Koum has been public about his distaste for startups that sell out quickly. “Totally agree with Vinod Khosla,” he wrote in July. “People starting companies for a quick sale are a disgrace to the valley.” (He’s also, btw, noted that getting on TC shouldn’t be a goal in itself. Too true.)</i><p>-- Sounds like another loss for the good side.
iag超过 12 年前
This sounds to me like a defensive move against the messaging giants of the east (Wechat, Line, Kakao).<p>Thoughts on this guys?
89a超过 12 年前
No idea why people use it when LINE exists
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