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Why Mark Shuttleworth thinks Ubuntu on phones will outclass Android

48 点作者 sk2code超过 12 年前

13 条评论

codeulike超过 12 年前
Android (and I think iOS?) both reserve the right to purge paused apps from memory if memory is needed (a paused app being an app that the user is not currently looking at). This seems well suited to phones, but leads to a totally different programming model whereby apps must be ready to persist their state and be deflated/reinflated/stopped without warning.<p>Will Ubuntu for Phones struggle to make good use of the phone memory if it doesn't use this technique? (I assume it just uses the desktop-PC model of 'a thing is running until its stopped, page to disk if necessary?')<p>edit: also, as people have pointed out, there are battery life implications
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mseepgood超过 12 年前
So, where did all the 20 million new Ubuntu PCs sold in 2012 go? <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/20-million-new-ubuntu-linux-pcs-in-2012/10770" rel="nofollow">http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/20-million-new-ubuntu-...</a><p>How many Ubuntu TVs were sold?<p>This guy lives in a reality distortion field beyond belief.
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drcube超过 12 年前
I'm not nearly as excited for dockable PC/phone hybrids as I am for a phone running GNU free software.<p>In fact I'm already looking to replace my perfectly usable HTC phone for a Nexus so I can install the image Ubuntu is supposed to release in a few weeks.<p>I stopped using Ubuntu on my laptop because there are better alternatives out there. But I think Ubuntu can really shine as a mobile OS, and it will almost certainly be better than Android or iOS for my purposes.
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benologist超过 12 年前
I've been excited about this ever since they announced it a year ago, the thought of having "just a phone" instead of a phone, laptop and tablet is so awesome it's going to outclass <i>everything</i>.<p>The one thing I'm afraid of is how resource-intensive certain classes of software are. I tried a netbook over a year ago and wouldn't want that kind of performance except in emergencies, even today every single IDE I run is a slow piece of crap on last year's maxed out macbook air.
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Inufu超过 12 年前
&#62; Canonical's secret sauce in selling carriers on Ubuntu might lie in helping them sell their own services to end users. Carriers "care about brand and we know how to accommodate that," Shuttleworth said. "They care about their own content and we've essentially put their content on an equal footing with content from the ecosystem. The handset manufacturer or operator that has music, films, or other types of content can promote their content to their users or other users directly in a way that doesn't feel like a bolt-on or a sideshow."<p>I do not want any content from my phone manufacturer, much less operator. From experience, this is almost exclusively overpriced crap, useless apps or branding.
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yardie超过 12 年前
As long as we have some honest to god, native-C support I'll be pleasantly pleased. I'd rather be an android consumer rather than an android programmer, Dalvik just doesn't interest me at all.
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jiggy2011超过 12 年前
One of the biggest criticisms levelled at android has been that the UI feels a little clunky and slow and that changes made by carriers and manufacturers usually make the experience worse.<p>If they can make this phone feel like an iPhone in terms of smoothness and keep a nice consistent feel then this might have a chance of being a premium choice over android.
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oscargrouch超过 12 年前
I Think if somebody can make a phone os better than android, and more intuitive (easy for non-tech people).. not only that but have the capacity to enchant the mobile hardware players(good lobby push)<p>Android can be beaten away.. but not the same can be said about to IOS.. its all about brand.. its a tough fight..<p>But android market share, is not much about the consumers that want it because they need..(theres no sentimental decision about it) its about the device makers, making the decision for this share of the market..<p>if ubuntu can convince device makers to put that in their phones.. (with the help of some good apps, so theres no cultural shock).. i think people will not care much..<p>and for developer comunity, i think is better.. we need to get free from the centralized app market model from apple.. whoever delivers that is my friend :)
codex超过 12 年前
"Shuttleworth believes that Ubuntu will be more user-friendly for people who barely know how to use a smartphone."<p>An experience that is more user friendly than iOS and more user friendly than Windows Phone will be hard to do. Beating Android might be easier. Furthermore, very few people with money haven't already used a smartphone, so they'll be aiming for the market of people who have no money. Not exactly lucrative, and Android has distinct advantages there. Android can be cheaper than Ubuntu because they can monetize mobile advertising better.<p>In short, this effort will totally fail. There is no compelling reason to have a 5th player in the smartphone market, and given Ubuntu's track record with desktop UI, I don't think their effort in mobile will be terribly inspired.
lnanek2超过 12 年前
Too bad they aren't big like Microsoft, who can flat out pay people to port apps and run constant developer events, etc.. Heck, even BlackBerry has been constantly giving out phones and prizes and benefits to developers. Ubuntu just doesn't have the infrastructure to get the apps on to the platform, and the users want good apps. Even if you can port something from a Linux desktop version easily, it's still going to lack software.
dschiptsov超过 12 年前
A system should have evolved, not being pushed.<p>Unity and accompanied py-qt based stuff is crap being pushed.<p>I don't see why to expect something different form a repetition of the same "strategy" - pushing half-baking crap in a rush.
vemv超过 12 年前
Canonical should just do the world a favor and disappear.
olleicua超过 12 年前
I cannot wait for this!