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Aaron Swartz, American hero

310 点作者 binarybits超过 12 年前

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jacoblyles超过 12 年前
&#62;"As I said at the time of Swartz’s arrest, his actions were foolish and some punishment was probably appropriate. "<p>Bullshit. No punishment is appropriate. A system that punishes someone for standing up for justice does not deserve to continue its existence. Aaron deserved a medal, not a fine or a prison sentence. Here is my take on it:<p><a href="http://jacobexmachina.blogspot.com/2013/01/aaron-swartz-freedom-fighters-death.html" rel="nofollow">http://jacobexmachina.blogspot.com/2013/01/aaron-swartz-free...</a>
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holri超过 12 年前
As always, nationalism is wrong. Beeing a hacker, activist or unconventional thinker has nothing to do with beeing american.<p>There are enough counter examples, just study history. (for example that of the CCC and his members and fellows)
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rhizome31超过 12 年前
<i>“It is no accident that Silicon Valley is in America, and not France, or Germany, or England, or Japan,” Graham wrote. “In those countries, people color inside the lines.”</i><p>It's all right to be proud of your country, although of course it's neither very original nor very elaborate thinking. But why denigrate others? For your information, there are a lot of activists who fight for freedom of information, human rights and net neutrality in those countries as well.
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noonespecial超过 12 年前
Hero. Almost super. An interesting idea. He definitely had some Batman-ish tendencies as far as stepping just over the line to accomplish what he thought was right.<p>So far, everyone has talked about the losses of not having Aaron's (and those like him) extraordinary contributions.<p>I wonder if a better way to count the cost is by how many bitter, cynical super-villains we're creating. What happens when all of the people with Aaron's talents decide that good is for suckers and become "investment" bankers instead. A culture that loudly and openly demonstrates that it cares nothing for truth or justice and reduces the law to politics is going to create a lot more Madoffs than Swartzes.
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eykanal超过 12 年前
I like the perspective of comparing Aaron to older "hacker/visionaries" of decades gone by. I wasn't aware of some of those brushes with the law.
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pajju超过 12 年前
Things he made:<p><a href="https://www.jottit.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.jottit.com/</a><p><a href="http://openlibrary.org/" rel="nofollow">http://openlibrary.org/</a><p><a href="http://watchdog.net/" rel="nofollow">http://watchdog.net/</a><p><a href="http://reddit.com/" rel="nofollow">http://reddit.com/</a><p><a href="http://webpy.org/" rel="nofollow">http://webpy.org/</a><p>HN will miss your contributions. Rest in Peace. #Love.
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tripzilch超过 12 年前
&#62; “It is no accident that Silicon Valley is in America, and not France, or Germany, or England, or Japan,” Graham wrote. “In those countries, people color inside the lines.”<p>Whaaaat, you have got to be kidding me.<p>Colouring inside the lines? Let's see, the Demoscene is almost exclusively a European phenomenon. There's the CCC. Fravia did not exactly colour inside the lines. There's the Pirate Bay. Wikileaks. Just a colourful few from the top of my head, there's more if you dig further.<p>If you really have to look for a difference with Silicon Valley, I'd say it's about making money, startups, entrepreneurship, chasing <i>that</i> "American Dream", contrast with the above examples which are all people that did it for idealism, art or just for the heck of it, instead of for profit. In that context, Aaron Swartz falls squarely in the latter category.<p>Before you throw a fit about my stereotyping, stop. The distinction I sketched in the previous paragraph is just as stupid as the one Graham tried to make. I think it's stupid to draw a distinction between US and EU like this[0], after all, that's what this global communication information age is about. There's "startup-hackers" in the EU just as much as there are "tinkerer-hackers" in the US.<p>Having said that, the first thing I thought when reading that headline was "wow, if a big media outlet like the Washington Post names you 'American Hero', you really did something very right", and I felt happy. Which turned to disappointment when I found that the "American" part of that title was wrought with such bitter nationalism.<p>[0] I'm leaving Japan out of this because I really hardly know anything about that country and don't want to be caught with my foot in my mouth, somebody more knowledgeable than me can make that part of the argument.
edouard1234567超过 12 年前
Hacking systems to their advantage is a pretty strong trait in the best entrepreneurs and PG recognized this pattern earlier than most and built a business out of it, it's called YC :).<p>What saddens me the most is not so much that he died but more that he didn't live to accomplish all the great things a fearless visionary like him could have done for all of us...
xtracto超过 12 年前
Every time stuff like this happens reminds me of The Conscience of a Hacker ( <a href="http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=7&#38;id=3&#38;mode=txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=7&#38;id=3&#38;mode=...</a> ), a timeless piece.<p>&#62; You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
sever超过 12 年前
This reminded me of Arnold Schwarznegger's rules for success in life: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuJ4hbkLiY0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuJ4hbkLiY0</a> about 50 seconds in. Rule 2 -- break the rules.
anoncow超过 12 年前
Aaron Swartz, hero.
sidcool超过 12 年前
It's sad we are doing all this now.
general_failure超过 12 年前
What crap.<p>The idea of dissent is practically everywhere and there is nothing inherently american about it. Neither is 'dissent' the first thing or the top 10 thing that comes to mind when you talk about americanism.<p>Breaking the law is breaking the law. How can one have humor about it? I would love to see the author share this 'humor' when someone plugs into <i>his</i> network and steal his digital stuff.
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