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Wozniak: Facts in Steve Jobs movie look 'atrocious'

120 点作者 mactitan超过 12 年前

11 条评论

sethbannon超过 12 年前
The neatest part of this article is where Woz talks about Aaron Sorkin's upcoming Steve Jobs film, which he is consulting on and says will "play out in three extended scenes, shot in real time, that depict Jobs at three product rollouts: the Macintosh, Jobs' non-Apple product NeXT, and the iPod."<p>Now that's something to look forward to.
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artursapek超过 12 年前
It was clear when it was announced that this was going to be the inaccurate, sexy, mainstream Hollywood version of a Jobs film. It stars Ashton Kutcher for god's sake.<p>I think everyone on HN is unanimously looking more forward to Aaron Sorkin's film. Most of the mainstream non-tech-world Hollywood-Ashton-Kutcher audience has not seen the actual product announcements nor do they even know they exist. For most people, the iPod announcement was word of mouth and TV ads. Meanwhile a lot of the type of people who read HN somewhat worship the Steve Jobs keynotes. I know <i>I've</i> watched nearly all of them.<p>In fact I'm sure there will be a spike in "everyone else" watching them for the first time if Sorkin's movie is popular and brings them to the mainstream. For now they've just been a total geek thing to indulge in. :)
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donebizkit超过 12 年前
Sure it's not a biography but the issue is that it will be perceived as such by regular movie goers. That's the power of Hollywood as a propaganda machine. People will be referencing events from the movie as if they were 100% accurate. They will make character judgements; and on the long run those judgements will transcend from the movie to reality.
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danso超过 12 年前
It's a shame. The truth of their relationship is entertaining and fascinating in itself. I suspect it would be even more so if Woz wasn't such a humble mensch and would rather be polite than talk trash. It's just a shame that he doesn't get more popular respect so that more people aspire to be like him...for every Jobs, we need someone as good as Woz
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Apocryphon超过 12 年前
I'm disappointed in that unlike The Social Network, which had no other film as a reference to compare to, this film already has Pirates of Silicon Valley as a precedent. While Jobs didn't care for the film, Woz thought:<p>"The personalities and incidents are accurate in the sense that they all occurred but they are often with the wrong parties (Bill Fernandez, Apple employee #4, was with me and the computer that burned up in 1970) and at the wrong dates (when John Sculley joined, he had to redirect attention from the Apple III,not the Mac, to the Apple II) and places (Homebrew Computer Club was at Stanford Linear Accelerator Center) ... the personalities were very accurately portrayed." (<a href="http://www.woz.org/taxonomy/term/2" rel="nofollow">http://www.woz.org/taxonomy/term/2</a>)
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beggi超过 12 年前
Unrelated to this article but more based on what I've read elsewhere - to me, this movie just doesn't seem very innovative, unlike the subject. It feels like the producers wanted to cram Steve's whole life into a one and a half hour film without any compromise. On the other hand, I love the idea of Aaron Sorkin's movie, with three scenes of Steve getting ready for important product announcements. I think that's a great compromise and much more in the spirit of Steve Jobs's work ethic.<p>Of course, I have not seen the movie, just basing this off of articles I've read :)
eloisius超过 12 年前
This is like inception misrepresentation. An article about Wozniak condemning the accuracy of a movie, which is itself very misleading.<p>I was at the talk, and I can say first hand that the tone of the talk never came anywhere near the way this editorialized paragraph would suggest:<p>&#62; "Totally wrong. Personalities and ... the ideas of computers affecting society did not come from Jobs ... . His idea was to make a $20 PC board and sell it for $40 to help people... build the computer I'd given away ... . [H]e always saw a way to make a quick buck off my designs (this was the 5th time). The lofty talk came much further down the line."<p>The theme was closer to how he and Jobs were a great team because he would come up with designs and Jobs always had a way to make them money from it even saying explicitly, "...and we'd always split the profit."
TechNewb超过 12 年前
I will be posting the full video of Woz's very informative and inspiring talk on YouTube with highlights as soon as it gets approved by legal. Hopefully that will be this Monday...
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elorant超过 12 年前
As atrocious is Kutcher's performance. The guy will ridicule Jobs legacy with his poor acting. I saw the trailer and it was awful. And the guy they choose to play Woz resembles more Hurley from Lost rather than Wozniak.
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JacobIrwin超过 12 年前
Vuze search rendered zero results for "jobs"+"sundance"<p>However, I was able to find a short clip from the film, here: <a href="https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/kutcher-portrays-apple-founder-jobs-article-1.1248737" rel="nofollow">https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/kutcher-...</a><p>Please let me know if you find a source of the full movie, thanks!
dsr_超过 12 年前
It doesn't really matter. This isn't a biography or a documentary, this is entertainment. Was THE SOCIAL NETWORK true? No, it was entertaining.<p>The best you can hope for any biopic is that it won't distort positions unrecognizably far from reality, and perhaps it will inspire someone.
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