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Racism is Poisoning Online Ad Delivery, Says Harvard Professor

36 点作者 antichaos超过 12 年前

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jerf超过 12 年前
This is one of those cases where I find myself wanting the professor to first sit down and very precisely say what they think "non-discriminatory" would mean in this context. The devil is in the details. Just flinging around wild accusations of racism at Google, this company, and finally society as a whole, without giving any action items on how one would discharge the accusation of racism is just being mean, hitting people with a very big stick without giving them any chance to dodge.<p>(Perhaps she does somewhere, however, I will freely admit my Bayesian priors on that probability suggest it is not worth my time to try to find it.)<p>I'm not demanding this to the nth degree, obviously; I don't expect her to submit a working patch to Google's results engine. But what amounts to a vague wave in the direction that can't even be nailed beyond "society" is not helpful to anyone, just an incendiary attack.
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hncommenter13超过 12 年前
I have spent quite a bit of time working with arrest and incarceration data that has names attached. Rates of arrest and incarceration are not precisely correlated to demographics, in the sense that certain "races" (as defined by the government) are over- and under-represented in the criminal justice system, for a variety of reasons. Some of this divergence may be explained by systemic racism, some may be explained by confounding variables (poverty, education), etc.<p>All that said, my point is that if one bought ads with keywords for 100% of the unique first name-last name pairs found among prisoners/arrestees, "stereotypically black" names would be over-represented relative to the total population and relative to the internet-using population.<p>In other words, in my view, this is a symptom of the criminal justice system, not a racist policy choice by Google's algorithm. Google's algorithm sees only one color: green.
martey超过 12 年前
I am a bit disappointed by the comments here. Several of them ask questions that are clearly explained in the actual paper - <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.6822" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.6822</a> - which is linked at the bottom of the article (albeit broken because of a spurious colon). Some of them even ask questions that are explained in the abstract.
danso超过 12 年前
<i>edit: I was too brief in the intro here; this comment is meant to provide additional context on how others (namely, Reuters) have interpreted Sweeney's work and is not meant as a judgment of the actual study itself.</i><p>It's funny (<i>"funny", as in, it was a confusing coincidence, not as in, the study is suspicious</i>) that the OP mentions the ad-delivery on Reuters.com.<p>I tried it out for myself using the professor's name and got this massive correction note to a December Reuters story involving her study (the correction was so major that the story has been removed from Reuters archive:<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/13/us-usa-internet-profiling-idUSBRE8BC19S20121213" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/13/us-usa-internet-pr...</a><p><i>(Reuters) - Please be advised that a November 25 article reporting that Instantcheckmate.com's advertising relies on racial profiling has been withdrawn. The story, "Professor finds profiling in ads for personal data website," contains errors.<p>The headline of the article and the article itself incorrectly assert that Harvard Professor Latanya Sweeney's research showed that Instantcheckmate.com, an online background research website, had engaged in racial profiling in its advertisements.<p>Sweeney says the preliminary results of the research found "significant discrimination" in Instantcheckmate.com's online ad search results, but were insufficient for the article's assertion of deliberate racial profiling by Instant Checkmate. Her research is ongoing. Instant Checkmate denies any such activity, which it describes as being at odds with the company's values. The company says further that it hasn't seen Sweeney's research.<p>There will be no substitute story.</i><p>---<p>This doesn't have any bearing on the legitimacy of the OP's summation of Ms. Sweeney's work, just that her work has been written about before, and apparently, easily misinterpreted by the media.<p>edit: If you want to read the pulled-Reuters story, this appears to be a copy of it:<p><a href="http://technewthings.blogspot.com/2012/11/reuters-technology-news-professor-finds.html" rel="nofollow">http://technewthings.blogspot.com/2012/11/reuters-technology...</a><p>The Reuters story focused more on Instantcheckmate.com's practices and apparently made too strong of a conclusion. Strangely, the author of the piece, a Reuters corespondent, is also a Harvard fellow who is collaborating with Sweeney for a book.
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bcoates超过 12 年前
Skimming the paper, it doesn't look like she accounted for how common each name is overall. Assume instantcheckmate, which runs the "arrest" themed searches, uses a broader set of names than the competition, that runs generic "looking for foo?" ads. If the black-identifying names are less common than white-identifying ones, that would be enough to cause the correlation.<p>Do these scam sites even check public records? "The Cesspool of Online Ads is Poisoning Online Ad Delivery" might be a better title.
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stcredzero超过 12 年前
So, after a century of entire societies based on race-based slavery, is legislative and judicial reform going to completely wipe out racism, or is it more likely to be subject to some sort of asymptotic decay? Is everyone going to change their minds instantly about racism, or will it persist in the minds of large numbers of people? Is racism likely to disappear with everyone's logical and rational acknowledgement, or is it more likely to to persist in forms which are deniable and publicly invisible? Everything we know about human nature indicates the latter choices are going to be true.<p>This is precisely why witch-hunt attitudes towards racism are counter-productive. Racism isn't an evil or a personal shortcoming [1], it's a consequence of unfortunate history combined with shortcomings in the way our minds process social information. Treating racism as a kind of evil makes communicating rationally about it impossible. And since it's a once huge social factor asymptotically decaying, it's going to be all around us. It would be much better for us as a society to be able to talk about it rationally. That's not what the current social climate is conducive to, however.<p>Basically, everyone's attitude towards stuff like racism and sexism should be somewhat like the stance "Everyone Poops" takes towards, well, poop. It's not the most pleasant thing in the world. It's just a consequence of where we came from. The only difference is that there is hope that eventually we will overcome it. (Well, maybe when people's minds are uploaded into computers, we won't poop or judge people overwhelmingly on external morphology.)<p>EDIT: [1] - Harboring some racist attitudes or ideation is perfectly understandable, but if you go and perpetrate some sort of crime or act of cruelty as a result, this is certainly wrong. We all experience hate and negative emotions. This doesn't excuse you from acting like a civilized human being.
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DanBC超过 12 年前
The article doesn't mention a few points.<p>EDIT: my point 1 and 2 are dumb and clearly explained in the paper.<p>3) As I understand it the US has very many black people in prison. I've heard a variety of stats; 1 in 3 black men are either in prison, on probation or on parole. Wikipedia says that the US Bureau of Justice Statistics says that 39% of the prison population is non-hispanic black (while the black including hispanic population is just 13% of the US population.) That suggests that people with a black name will need legal services more than someone with a white name. The algorithm hasn't been tweaked by racists; the algorithm is just responding to a racist society.<p>This post is not meant to bash the professor's work! I haven't read the paper yet. I'm about to give it a read.
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cschmidt超过 12 年前
I've built gender identification models from first names, using census data. In playing with that data, it seems to me that African American names have a longer tail distribution. That is, the top 100 names cover a much smaller fraction of the African American population. I'd be interested to see actual data on that, but that is my semi-informed opinion.<p>Given that, those long tail names are going to be cheaper on Google ads. In my experience, the headwords are always more expensive. Thus, if this website is scooping up cheap traffic, that will tend to be biased toward "black sounding" names.<p>Google isn't doing anything other than selling keywords.
finnw超过 12 年前
I would like to know how the database of names was built.<p>That is, how would one qualify a name as "black-sounding" or "white-sounding"? I hope it was not based only on intuition as that may give misleading results. Is there a public data set somewhere that correlates given names with ethnicity?<p>Edit: On second thoughts, it might be more interesting to perform similar google search experiments with both intuitive <i>and</i> empirical name/ethnicity pairings and see if the results differ.
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gnu8超过 12 年前
I'm inclined to think that the company running the ads typed in a bunch of black sounding names as keywords for their ad campaign. Having run ads on google before I believe that would produce the result observed. I have no information that discounts the other possibilities though.
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freshhawk超过 12 年前
&#62; they ought to be able to reason about the legal and social consequences of certain patterns of click-throughs<p>I've worked with the people who optimize things like this (although they never thought of this particular one, probably a result of being Canadian)<p>They can and do reason about the legal and social consequences. They don't give a shit as long as it makes money, and if there are legal consequences then they hide behind anonymous proxies and vps payed for with prepaid credit cards (hides them from google as well). Plenty of them make jokes about how shady and dishonest their business is and then go to church every weekend with their families and think nothing of it.<p>If they were forced to they would justify things like this by pointing out that they are just optimizing keywords, if society is racist and the data algorithms detect that then so be it. Mostly they would just not care and continue to worry about a bad daily fluctuation wiping out a months profits or google catching on to the blackhat tactics they use sometimes and shutting their adwords accounts down.<p>There is literally zero chance of convincing people doing ad network arbitrage to consider social consequences, and IANAL but the what are the legal consequences of using automated keyword optimization tools that would, by definition, reflect any biases of society at large?
gyardley超过 12 年前
This is likely happening because the public is more likely to click on an arrest-related ad for a black-sounding name. Higher click-through rates mean higher ad quality scores, which in turn mean lower minimum cost-per-click rates, which in turn means instantcheckwhatever's bottom-feeding ads appear more often. In other words, society is more interested in the arrest records of people with black-sounding names, so Google adapts. The professor does raise this as a possibility in her article.<p>But if that's the case, <i>why</i> is society more interested in the arrest-records of people with black-sounding names? Perhaps it's because in America, blacks are disproportionately likely to have criminal records. (Some quick Googling - in 2010, according to the census, blacks were 13.6% of the population, but in 2009, according to the FBI, 28.3% of arrests were of a black person.)<p>I'm not making any judgements about black people by quoting these statistics - perhaps these arrest rates reflect institutional racism, or disproportionate levels of poverty, or lack of access to opportunity. But I'd rather the professor focus her time on correcting <i>that</i> disparity instead of trying to make Google's AdWords algorithm correspond to something other than the interests of the public.
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darkxanthos超过 12 年前
Referencing the below data... a rough estimate is black people are 2.3x more likely to be arrested. Given that it would make sense though it is REALLY awkward as a company practice. Not sure how I feel about that as advertising can also shape/reinforce reality.<p>Quick data: White Black Arrested 7389208 3027153 10416361 Not Arrested 216164057 35902166 252066223 223553265 38929319<p>References: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Stat...</a> <a href="http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0325.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0325.p...</a>
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bo1024超过 12 年前
Am I missing something here? It sounds like what is going on is that some sketchy company (instantcheckmate.com) is willing to pay more than their competitors for Google ad slots for certain names. They may even be getting positive feedback in the machine learning sense from the scare tactic effect, getting people who pay to sign up just to see if their name is associated with an arrest record (as Dr. Sweeney did).<p>Of course media sites always overhype research with incredible titles, but I can't see that this tells us much about online ad delivery in general ... though it perhaps raises interesting (unanswered) questions about Google's ad delivery....
jessaustin超过 12 年前
<i>If the algorithms behind Adsense can reason about maximising [sic] revenues, [Sweeney] says they ought to be able to reason about the legal and social consequences of certain patter[n]s of click-throughs.</i><p>What?!? Does not follow!
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gfodor超过 12 年前
I think it's funny that this inference based approach to discovering "racism" is, in its own way, "racist" itself. The only thing this ad tells you is that people searching for "Latanya Sweeney" seem to warrant advertisers purchasing ad space relevant for people who have been arrested. It says nothing directly about the race of the person doing the search.<p><i>That</i> takes a leap that is based upon correlations: that there is a correlation between someone searching for "Latanya Sweeny" and them being black, based upon historical birth records. Of course, it's this same type of blind correlation-based thinking that results in racism. Swap out "birth name" with some other less appealing attribute and "black" with your race, ethnic group, or other group of choice and you have a textbook example of racist thinking. It doesn't exactly serve their point well to use the same mechanism which brings about racism as a means to make an argument.
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incision超过 12 年前
I'm inclined to go with the "more insidious explanation" that "the results merely reflect the discriminatory pattern of clicks from ordinary people". Though, I don't think it's necessarily discriminatory.<p>On the topic of *-sounding names...<p>I've worked at least one technical job where having having a "black" or even just generally "American" name would send a job application straight to the trash.<p>However, I'd expect any established employer to have an automatic background check / verification system in place, so a possibly suggestive Google search wouldn't be particularly relevant.<p>I'm thinking prospective dates are more likely to be Googling names than employers.
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jiggy2011超过 12 年前
This is more a problem with name collisions that "racism" per se. I some white people who share a name with a known criminal, google searching their names comes up with similar results. I also know people who share relatively rare names with well known celebrities which makes it difficult to get their own content to come up in google searches at all.<p>So this is probably just a reflection of black sounding names to be statistically more likely to be shared with criminals. In the same way that googleing for "teen girls" has a high likelyhood of returning porn.
drpgq超过 12 年前
Would having such ads in a magazine like Jet or Ebony be racism too? I've worked on ethnicity detection from faces and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
hugh4life超过 12 年前
Can someone please explain to me the scientific(not political) justification for racial egalitarianism?<p>I'm sorry, but I look at you people like you people look at young earth creationists.
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abraininavat超过 12 年前
Racism is based, in part, on the fact that our brain's pattern recognition and extrapolation faculties are often too simplistic and shallow to see through correlation and make real judgments about causation.<p>Google's AdSense is nothing more than a pattern matcher, and it is (of course) fundamentally simplistic and stupid when compared to a human. To ask it not to be racist is to ask it to be smarter than ourselves. No doubt some of Dr. Sweeney's colleagues in the Computer Science department at Harvard are working on that very thing -- she should take it up with them.
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