Also submitted just over an hour ago:<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5200309" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5200309</a><p>That has no comments as yet, nor upvotes. I reference it here in case one of them starts to get some comments, and in the hope of avoiding any conversation getting split across the two submissions.