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Leave The "Business Guys" Alone Already

10 点作者 Felix21超过 12 年前

6 条评论

MaulingMonkey超过 12 年前
Maybe I'm an outlier here in game development, but "clueless kids" are the rule, not the exception, and nowhere near rare. Companies bin entire unsolicited design documents without even reading them because those ideas have negative expected worth: Increased chance of lawsuits, to a field rife and bountiful with ideas from people who've actually worked in the field and have some idea of what might work and what might not. Good ideas are as important as the air we breathe, but just as ubiquitous. They join our communities with those same ideas, offering $0 (not merely "reduced") wages, bringing no experience to the table, whether that be business acumen, marketing experience, writing artistic or coding skill... no finances as an investor, no guidance as someone who's already been in the industry, nothing. All for the promise of some nebulous undefined profit sharing on some idea they won't share a scrap of. Ostensibly to protect the idea from theft, of course, but leaving you with no idea if you might be interested even if they <i>were</i> offering something more.<p>Suggesting they learn to code might be inappropriate, but pointing out they need to be able to bring something to the table besides "ideas" -- any of the above skills would be a great start -- is exactly the sort of "sensible advice" called for, but that's often not enough to get through and make the point. When people start throwing around how much they're paid, they're trying to underscore what the "ideas guy" is competing with, to explain <i>why</i> that idea alone just isn't enough. When people start getting frustrated, angry, and ranty, perhaps it's because this isn't as rare as the author thinks. It certainly isn't rare in game development. Maybe a different approach would be appropriate, starting things off on "the right foot" by focusing on what they can bring to the table first, rather than the business opportunity. Resumes may get binned too, but not at the 100% rate. Focusing on the person rather than the idea also lets you focus on if you'd be a good fit for <i>any</i> project, rather than tossing one idea at a time their way... or if they're such a great fit you'd be willing to find a different business opportunity that suits both of you.
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Deejahll超过 12 年前
A "business guy" complains about developers allegedly making contemptuous generalizations about clueless business guys by making contemptuous generalizations about developers.<p>He assumes that the reason that we who know how to write software don't (generalism) do his job is because we're "blind to those opportunities."<p>He sees himself as the architect and software developers as the grunts who lay the bricks.
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Longlius超过 12 年前
"You can code now shut-up about it already. You are a great developer and I am a great businessman; I have my skills and you have yours (well actually I now have yours to some extent)."<p>Really? I don't think so.<p>HN isn't populated exclusively with code monkeys. A lot of us have solid educational backgrounds, including some with graduate degrees and published research. To imply that you have our skills to 'some extent' is pure hubris on your part.
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justjimmy超过 12 年前
Just a suggestion - run your articles through a spell checker. Makes it more credible when you share it with HN.
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aethertron超过 12 年前
First I was surprised that this was on the svtble network. (Then I looked again.)
joelmaat超过 12 年前
No.