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Ask HN [Developers]: Recruiters on Linkedin

3 点作者 jpd750超过 12 年前
When recruiters contact you on linkedin with a job opportunity - what do you do?<p>Additionally, if they ask to forward along the job to someone you "might know who would be a better fit" if you dont fit the job description - what do you do? Do you ever refer?<p>What are your thoughts on this approach by recruiters on LinkedIn ? Do you find it effective or aggravating?

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codegeek超过 12 年前
YMMV but you should have a few specific requirements to respond to a recruiter if they approach you.Mine are:<p>■ Make sure you are ready with as detailed information on the client as possible. This includes client name, , location, salary/rate information, contract type (W-2, C2C etc.) at the minimum. If you do not give out at least some of these in the first call, don’t bother calling the candidate. Remember they do not need you as much as you need them.<p>■ If you do talk to the candidate, be honest and specific. If you don’t have a piece of information that is asked for, tell them you will follow up and do exactly that.<p>■ Do not tell the candidate that this position is so urgent that you need their Resume by tonight or the deal is gone. Top candidates do not like to be pestered. If they think it is worth it, they will send you the Resume without tantrums. If you absolutely need to express urgency (client is interviewing your competitors candidates and wants to decide quickly etc.), please mention that politely. Top candidates know that there is no such thing is URGENT REQUIREMENT that must be filled overnight. Hiring managers do not mind waiting for the right candidate usually.<p>■ If the candidate decides to send you their Resume, you have done a great job at convincing them that the opportunity is worth exploring and you are worth trusting. But this is half battle won. The candidate expects a lot more from you from here on.<p>■ Keep the candidate updated with any progress etc. If you sent the resume to client/hiring manager, let the candidate know. If the hiring manager is waiting or sitting on it, let the candidate know. Top candidates like to be in loop even though they might not be desperate for that job and can wait for months if hiring manager is sitting on the resume. But for the love of god, update the candidate at least once every 7-10 days. You can drop a 1 liner “hey the hiring manager is still sitting on it<p>■ Do not just take the Resume and then stop existing for the candidate which means you never get back to them afterwards. This is the worst thing to do ever. If you are not interested anymore in working with the candidate or the client is not interested,let the candidate know asap. Remember, they do not really need that job as much anyway. The reason is that if you do need to work with them in the future, they will not consider you again. Top candidates are always in demand by many clients.<p>■ Treat the candidates with respect. You might be experience in what you do but remember that top candidates are also great at what they do. If you don’t respect their time, they will not respect yours.
codeonfire超过 12 年前
If it's not interesting I don't respond. If it's interesting I check out the web site and filter out any hipster shops, open floor plans, mandatory pair programming, Microsoft stuff, frat shops, body shops, H1-B shops, etc, etc. Then I look at pictures of people posted on those sites. Do I fit the demographic of the company? Am I going to be the odd person because no one there is over 20? Then I consider if the place would pay more than my current job. I check several salary sources, read the negative reviews, etc.<p>If its a big company, I read about the executive management and try to look them up on LinkedIn. If its a small company, I read their management bio pages and look them up on LinkedIn. I consider if any of the owners/founders were actually ever developers or know anything about software. Do the founders seem douchey or dumb? I try to find youtube interviews to get a feel of their personality and values. Finally, I give up and don't respond. The truth is I don't want to work at your job. I worked there or someplace like it a decade ago and I'm not going back.<p>Recruiters who want to know why or why not someone might respond need to consider if their opportunity is really a good fit for the person before sending it. Its really not my dream to be a JEE/JSP developer for acme whatever company. And I don't refer anyone because everyone I know likes their job or lives somewhere else.
gamechangr超过 12 年前
You're smart for a recruiter (looking for advice on HN), so I will give you an answer.<p>I get maybe 3-5 emails from recruiters a week. I usually write back a quick "no thank you".<p>Some of the problem is out of your control, like the fact that there is ten jobs for every available developer. Not good odds anyone would be interested in any job from a third party.<p>Some obstacles you could manage, mostly by being more specific.<p>WORK: Don't look at things I did ten years ago and reference them. YOu don't have to cover everything you are looking for in your first email. "looking for a backend Ruby developer" is specific enough. Try to describe who I would be working with (vs some weird perk like "we play pingpong on thursdays)<p>MONEY: I hear "exceptionally well paid position" or "top of the industry salary range" consistently, but rarely do I hear "$250-300k plus options".<p>Referral: Unless my friends are looking, it's very difficult for me to forward anything. Mention what the founders have worked on in the past would increase my chances.<p>Hope that helps.
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jyu超过 12 年前
If you haven't read these posts by Elaine Wherry, you should stop what you're doing and spend 10 minutes to go through it. It's a great piece on her setting up a fake LinkedIn profile, and analyzing all the recruiter messages she got. It then gives insights into how to message developers to get a good response (hint: tailored, personalized messages go a long way).<p><a href="http://www.ewherry.com/2012/06/the-recruiter-honeypot/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ewherry.com/2012/06/the-recruiter-honeypot/</a><p><a href="http://www.ewherry.com/2012/08/the-best-recruiters-followup/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ewherry.com/2012/08/the-best-recruiters-followup/</a>
andymoe超过 12 年前
If the job is for what I'm doing now (iOS development) vs something I did five years ago I'll respond with a quick "I'm not looking to make a move right now but check back in n months or years." It takes about a minute and it does not hurt to have a pipeline of people with opportunities. It's also a good way to weed out the crappy recruiters because if they have their stuff together at all you will usually hear from them again in n months.<p>I also do this so I have a record of who contacted me and if I think they are at all interesting. I usually don't refer them anyone and I usually don't connect with them unless I've worked with them in the past.
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stmfreak超过 12 年前
I find that the request is rarely a fit for either a job I'm interested in (they're looking at my resume from ten years ago) or any job that anyone I know might be interested in (because my network is rarely looking and when they are, rarely for 'that' job). It seems like really low-efficiency spam.
logn超过 12 年前
Historically I never replied to anything. I don't know why anyone would bother replying to unsolicited email of no interest.<p>Lately I've been freelancing so I reply saying my hourly rate and that I prefer remote work.
shail超过 12 年前
90% ignore, because they should be. 10% read/fwded if worthy.
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