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United States Transitions To A 'First-Inventor-To-File' Patent System

71 点作者 jamessun大约 12 年前

11 条评论

hmottestad大约 12 年前
I remember an article about SpaceX where Musk said that they didn't file many patents, because then other countries essentially had free access to their inventions if they didn't honour patents (China was mentioned).<p>With this change in law, they may no longer have protection against a patent filed by someone else that they (SpaceX) invented first...simply because they were not the first to file.<p>This may bring about more innovation because it forces "sharing" of ideas. Even if that "sharing" is done to stop real sharing.
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adventured大约 12 年前
Even if this were a better approach, all I see it doing is forcing an even bigger torrent of patents into a system already so overloaded that it hardly functions as it is.<p>How is the patent office going to manage the increase? It's not, the system is going to slow down even further.<p>This also increases the cost of innovation. If I have a business, invent something, and don't patent it - I'm screwed regardless of if I prove I created it three years prior to the filing. In other words, now you have to file patents for everything to protect your ass (because it's not good enough to be able to prove you invented it first X years ago), and that's a very expensive proposition, particularly for small companies. This encourages the patenting of every little detail possible, even more so than today. Because if you don't patent every little detail, now you will have no right to self defense on the basis that you were the original inventor - they can come after you for every rounded corner you failed to patent, so to speak.<p>This forces everybody into the patent game.<p>The rationalizations being offered up, such as that this will be good because it forces openness on innovation are not only wrong (all it actually does it make it easier to steal technology for countries that already don't respect foreign patents), but the negatives are going to far outweigh any supposed benefits.<p>In five years everybody here is going to be complaining about how they really botched this piece of legislation and how it created more problems than the old system. This will turn out to be an extraordinarily expensive and destructive change; it is not the right approach.
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Nursie大约 12 年前
I'd rather transition to a system where if two people try to file for the same thing within a few months or a year of each other, neither one gets it because it's probably pretty obvious.
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GotAnyMegadeth大约 12 年前
I don't really understand who benefits from this change? Doesn't everyone lose?
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Glyptodon大约 12 年前
I still think that the occurrence a of situation where multiple parties file for patents on essentially the same thing in a short period of time independently should be considered unassailable evidence of obviousness and consequently unpatentable subject matter.<p>Whatever happened to a "person having ordinary skill in the art"?
reader5000大约 12 年前
If an invention is invented twice independently, it should by definition be "obvious" and not patentable.
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rogueriver大约 12 年前
1. My gripes with our patent, and trademark system comes down to fees.<p>2. I draft all my own patents(only 1), and found the process difficult, but doable. I also filed my own trademark.<p>3. I did have an issue with the filing fees. I contacted the offices involved and complained about the fees. I felt the fees might prevent many young inventors fron protecting their invention, or trademark.<p>4. They told me their was some programs for low income individuals, but I couldn't kind anything. The fees for filing a patent should be based on what a person makes?
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kylered大约 12 年前
Patents are a necessary evil and a little bit addicting once you get your first taste. First to file simplifies a lot of the issues with prior art (ie the challenge of proving your idea was original), but I believe this system stifles small companies even further because of the costs associated with the patent system. We've made a decision to pursue key patents given how important some of these technologies are for our product, but I don't think that applies to most startups.<p>Here are some thoughts, cost overviews, and what to think about for a startup patent strategy: <a href="http://kylethered.tumblr.com/post/45273614239/good-rules-of-thumb-for-a-software-startup-patent" rel="nofollow">http://kylethered.tumblr.com/post/45273614239/good-rules-of-...</a>
gcr大约 12 年前
I'm confused by their example. How does this change the rules of public disclosure?<p>Before this law, public disclosures <i>prevent</i> the inventor from giving patents. In a conference I attended, the scientists were very careful to avoid publicly disclosing the details of their inventions for fear of removing their ability to file for a patent. But the brief blurb in the article mentions that if inventor A publically discloses their invention before inventor B files, then inventor A gets the patent.<p>Could someone clarify?
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lennel大约 12 年前
Out of curiosity, what kind of protection does the system offer against companies in certain markets patenting against potential innovations in these markets by inventors?
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jschuur大约 12 年前
Doesn't this put the pressure on companies to file even more patents on things quickly, in case someone else beats them to it?