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A scientific accident that could change the world

464 点作者 roachsocal大约 12 年前

14 条评论

BenoitEssiambre大约 12 年前
Conspicuously missing is any mention of energy density. Who cares about power density. That's juste how fast it can discharge. We don't need capacitors that can discharge faster. All capacitors are already much better than batteries with respect to power. We need capacitors that can store more energy. Capacitors typically suck at that and this article doesn't give any indication that these new ones are better.
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lifeisstillgood大约 12 年前
I really don't want to come across as nit picky but is this one time when changing a linkbait headline to something more descriptive would help - on the iPhone this page did not render thE actual text for a full half hour (subjective) and I spent all that time with my brain whirring but not in gear - it was a little frustrating<p>A headline like "DVD Graphene sheets store charge super fast in lab" would have helped me shift the various articles into my own working memory whilst the page loaded.<p>Downvote with comments please<p>(And I seem to get the general idea that Graphene will be big, but this is unlikely to be the killer app)
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ratsbane大约 12 年前
Am I the only one to think "hey, I could try this at home?" 1) prepare carbon slurry 2) pour on dvd 3) etch with LightScribe DVD drive... 4) Peel of graphene layer ...?<p>I wonder what, exactly, goes into the carbon slurry and if it's necessary to etch a particular pattern with the LightScribe.
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ergest大约 12 年前
I don't know much about the technology of this, but I used to play with capacitors during my teenage years and if this works even half as advertised it would be truly life altering. We could have "hybrid" solutions of a capacitor combined with a battery with the capacitor acting as a buffer to improve battery life.
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paul_f大约 12 年前
Using Graphene to build supercapacitors is not a new idea as this video suggests. Here is an article from 2.5 years ago in PhysicsWorld describing another team doing almost the same thing:<p><a href="http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/nov/26/graphene-supercapacitor-breaks-storage-record" rel="nofollow">http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/nov/26/graphen...</a>
axelfreeman大约 12 年前
I'm not a scientist. I can't not say anything how this could be a revolution but if you want learn the basics about Graphene. Start with this video on youtube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX8ClPVkD1g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX8ClPVkD1g</a> and then to this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmVnHgwOZs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmVnHgwOZs</a> or just search it on youtube. This helps me a lot to understand. Have fun.
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Fargren大约 12 年前
Well, the graphene seems easy enough to manufacture. What are the obstacles to start using this technology right now? What is still missing?
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alexjeffrey大约 12 年前
I'd love to see this technology being incorporated into Tesla's batteries. With super-fast and long lasting charges their cars might become viable in countries where charging stations are either incredibly rare or nonexistent.
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achy大约 12 年前
I wrote this last time too: Having a better conducting, higher surface area electrode is a huge step. BUT it doesn't really change the fact that a carbon based supercapacitor requires an electrolyte to form the double layer, and all existing electrolytes have a breakdown voltage below 5V. What we need is a better electrolyte. In calculating energy storage in a capacitor, the energy increases exponentially with voltage, while linearly with capacitance.
dj-doppelganger大约 12 年前
Hi - 1st post on Haker news. Please be nice :)<p>Aren't debates over energy density of super conductors v. Li-Ion batteries missing the important point, relative cost?<p>E.g. If the energy density is 1/4 lower but the cost is 1/40th as much then electric cars get ALOT more viable. Can anyone guess at the relative cost?
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alanh大约 12 年前
(semi-serious) Title should be “Meet <i>another</i> scientific accident that could change the world”
chrisivens大约 12 年前
I don't quite understand the maths behind all this but it certainly sound positive overall. It normally takes a while for things to get to the consumer but how long do we think it'll take to get to us or cars? Will it even get to consumers?
frozenport大约 12 年前
Diamonds are carbon based but you can't use them to grow vegetables.
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Selfcommit大约 12 年前
Anyone else remember when this was posted a few months ago? (I wish my account was named pepperidge farm, just for occasions like this.)
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