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Adria Richards makes an email statement, says she's moving on

10 点作者 freejoe76大约 12 年前

12 条评论

jholman大约 12 年前
<i>tl;dr:</i><p>Adria Richards's statement quoted in TFA is self-serving, disingenuous, and contains some obviously false statements, but oh well, so what. Passing judgement on this incident is beneath me (I strive to one day act as I preach). Adria, and arguably dongle-joke-guy, made some mistakes, and the use of this incident to third parties like myself is to take a moment to contemplate how to avoid making similar mistakes.<p>-------------------<p>Some choice snippets from her statement:<p>"I have always tried to conduct myself in a way that builds bridges for everyone"<p>Almost no one can honestly claim this, and we've seen plenty of comments in the past weeks which, if true, show that Adria is no paragon of virtue, including a few from activist feminist women in tech who feel that Adria's high-profile unreasonable belligerence has repeatedly damaged the cause of equality. The claim seems likely to be a self-serving lie, although perhaps she believes it herself.<p>"the severest of consequences have manifested"<p>Seriously? You can't imagine any more-serious consequences for starting a fight with someone? Idiot.<p>"we can welcome newcomers, women and people of color"<p>Good job, focus on YOUR visible minority statuses. Way to build bridges for <i>everyone</i>.<p>"all of these issues have reasonable, and, I think, easily reached solutions"<p>That's fascinating optimism. Easily reached, eh. Seems so delusional to me that I think she's lying.<p>"conference spaces are workplaces!"<p>Well, yeah, some people are working at conferences, but some people are not. Public parks are someone's workplace too, and so are strip clubs. What's your point?<p>"I want to be an integral part of a diverse, core group of individuals"<p>Yeah, I <i>bet</i> she wants to be a core individual. Way to focus on your own ambitions.<p>"I want to be ... part of a ... group ... that comes together in a spirit of healing and openness"<p>This is... not consistent with much of her publicized behaviour. Is it?<p>-------------------<p>So, I don't give a rat's ass about Adria, Sendgrid, the guy who got fired, his company, whatever. And honestly I think most of HN shouldn't either. This is still a tempest in a teapot, ignore it. Passing judgement, a thing I love to spend time doing, is spectacularly unproductive most of the time, and often is damaging to your own mental flexibility (even aside from the time wasted).<p>And PyCon, which I do care about, seems to have had a proportionate level of response (deal with the incident reasonably and in line with policy, also update policy to clarify that public shaming isn't wanted either), and is getting on with more interesting things. So, the incident in question has taken care of itself.<p>The interesting part for all of us, I believe, is whether we can learn anything useful to ourselves. For myself, I can remind myself that throwing javelins is dangerous, because it can bite you, and building bridges is usually more effective. And though I'm personally not a huge fan of the wording of PyCon's conduct policy, that's fine, it's their con and I see the advantages, so for myself I can remind myself that reasonable people hold this position, and if I don't want to offend those people and start fights, I should take that into account.
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coldtea大约 12 年前
&#62;<i>all I wish to do is find the good in what has been one of the most challenging weeks of my life.</i><p>As if it's all about her.<p>Not a word of sorry for eavesdropping on a private conversation and posting it on Twitter along with a candid photo of the person, with cost him his job (and all for a joke).<p>After this, I refuse to take seriously her other statements, about always helping" everyone, "building bridges" etc.
obstacle1大约 12 年前
This just in: Non-developer Adria Richards believes she did nothing wrong, plans to continue "building bridges" for use only by women, black people, and other Adria-approved minority groups on behalf of the developer community.<p>Also, sounds like a lawsuit is brewing:<p>"I cannot comment at this time on the specifics of what occurred at PyCon on March 17, and the subsequent events of the following days, but I can offer some general thoughts"
ChikkaChiChi大约 12 年前
If only someone were to want to build the bridges of equality without some doing it in a way that made them sound self-aggrandizing or with an undertone that they really want to be known in the "cool club" for doing something without really doing much of anything.<p>For better or worse, Richards accomplished her mission: Idiots like me now know who she is, what her face looks like, and I'm sure she's now on the pundit roster for many news outlets to chime in anytime something happens in the tech world.<p>Our society as a whole needs to stop paying attention to this gossip-rag like behavior and ignore the "Look At Me!" crowd.<p>Richards is a hypocrite who doesn't belong dictating professional standards in any form and her mere attempts at martyrdom are a disgrace to those fighting through the glass ceilings of our sector every day of their lives without posting to Twitter about it.
cafard大约 12 年前
"an integral part of a diverse, core group of individuals that comes together in a spirit of healing and openness to devise answers to the many questions that have arisen in the last week."<p>I guess she can get work writing mission statements.
tapatio大约 12 年前
Where are all the neutered male backers of her now?<p>Check out one of the Tweets she recently deleted: <a href="http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-adcfdad91e1f9664ff518b48bde24966" rel="nofollow">http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-adcfdad91e1f9664ff518b4...</a><p>OMG, is that a penis joke? No way! I thought she was offended by sex jokes?!?!?<p>More to read here: <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20130327/fired-sendgrid-developer-evangelist-adria-richards-speaks-out/" rel="nofollow">http://allthingsd.com/20130327/fired-sendgrid-developer-evan...</a>
Joeboy大约 12 年前
I think she's a bit of a dick, but I've never worked anywhere where at least two people weren't at least as dickish as her in some way or other. Although I'm not a fan, I'm glad she seems to be OK.
bitwize大约 12 年前
Every time I read her name I think "Is this about the Unix system girl from <i>Jurassic Park</i>?" That was Ariana Richards.<p>Shows how relevant she is. She got sorted into the wrong hash bucket.
escaped_hn大约 12 年前
All i need now is for the guy who got fired to be rehired by his company and my life will be complete.
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Kudzu_Bob大约 12 年前
Diversity = walking on eggshells. Exhibit A: The two guys Adria got fired.
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miql大约 12 年前
In before the delete.
codygman大约 12 年前
I think everyone in this thread needs to read three pages:<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_privilege" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_privilege</a><p>Also, let me exercise my white male privilege by saying that I'm a white male. What privilege does that give me? The privilege of you taking me more seriously of course!
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