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32 点作者 samholmes大约 12 年前

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weego大约 12 年前
My initial impressions are:<p>1) it's harder to visually skim down the page looking for interesting links because the row spacing is too high. The background being white and the text black also doesn't help this. Softening either the font color or the background is a common trick to making things feel more comfortable.<p>2) clicking into the comments being way over the right is something of an anti-pattern, infact all the information placed to the right of the post title/link is far less useful than the link to the comments to the point where the user that posted it and when it was posted is entirely irrelevant to me yet logically due to the position has higher priority.<p>3) points should be on the left as the up arrow and points are implicitly linked in a functionality -&#62; data relationship.<p>4) the margin between the left border and the index number and the other margins is jarringly inequal. I'm guessing it's double due to the way you've specified margins.<p>Similarly the margins that create the leading between the rows on the first (and bottom margin on the last) and subsequent rows has an unpleasant inequality.<p>5) the uneven baseline (the HN in the logotype and the K) in the header over-emphasises the height of the font used for the title and links in the header and gives the impression that it might not all quite line up when it does.<p>6) also in the heading the kerning is too tight for the size and color choices of the font which makes it feel more blurry and rough than needed/intended.
softbuilder大约 12 年前
Biggest problem that I wish someone would address is usability for mobile. About 1/3 of my time on the site is with my phone. Trying to select the Comments link instead of the article link is like playing Operation. Same for upvoting.
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rdl大约 12 年前
I'd like the following in HN: 1) Keep not requiring JS 2) White background; the low-contrast design of HN is one of the things I hate secondmost 3) Move upvote/downvote arrows, article title, submitter, flag, etc. apart, so someone using an iPhone/iPad never hits the wrong thing.<p><i>Ideally</i>, also make actions like voting revocable, and show my current vote for confirmation (e.g. if I've upvoted something show me a highlighted upvote arrow which I can select again to remove; don't just disappear the arrow.<p>You also would ideally support the "special" HN functions -- e.g. when YC sends out questions to an applicant, it might not be seen if you never use the "real" hn site, so a reskin might be an issue.
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orta大约 12 年前
The mouse distance to go from the link's text to the comments seems really far, IMO that's the most important link per row. I thought the points section was the comments.
andrewingram大约 12 年前
A few criticisms:<p>- Zero-indexing the post list is cute, but I don't think it helps with clarity.<p>- On a similar note, you've made the ranking a lot more visible, whereas before it was information I largely ignored. I'm not convinced it's actually important information<p>- I prefer chunky triangles to thin arrows to signify upvotes.<p>- By moving the secondary post information (points, author) to the side, it's become less clear that it's not part of the title. I'd increase the typographic contrast here.<p>- Number of comments is probably the 2nd thing I look at after the title, having it over on the right makes it harder to visually associate the comments count + link with its submission. Zebra-striping could help, but I'm not convinced having it on the right is a good choice.<p>- You've dropped the ability to flag posts, is this deliberate or an oversight?<p>Overall I like what you're trying to do here, but obviously any changes to the design are going to be a hard sell.
k-mcgrady大约 12 年前
I've never been too fond of how HN looks, but the more attempts I see to improve it the more I realise how good the current design is. It may not look pretty but it works very, very well.
glomph大约 12 年前
No one has beaten <a href="http://hckrnews.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hckrnews.com/</a> in my mind.
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mynameisvlad大约 12 年前
I hate hate hate the Arial Narrow. It's too jarring of a difference between the header and the content. I'd keep it at non-narrow.
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crucialfelix大约 12 年前
I think the non flashy design of HN is a feature. eg. hilariously unstyled login page. It means people need to use their brains to realize why all these people congregate here : for the content and discussion.<p>If the site is altered to make it easier to post and comment faster then I am guessing the quality of conversation would go down. Currently you are aware that the comment needs to be well written and not frivolous. Anything about the interface that makes it faster to read and comment will move the usage in the direction of frivolity.
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samholmes大约 12 年前
I've updated some things to this design.<p>* I made the background not white, which seemed to be hard on the eyes; I decided to keep the color scheme from orignal HN.<p>* Changed vote button icon; moved point count together with the button.<p>* Moved comments from the right to the left, closer to the link and vote button. Reason: it's too important of an element to have it be all on the very far right.<p>* Moved less important content (time and poster) to the far right.<p>* Internal stuff: I'm using localStorage APIs to cache the data I'm scrapping from a third party hackernews API source. This is because the source kept getting hiccups.<p>Here are my questions to the rest of those who are still interested in this endeavor:<p>Should I go with grey text on white, or black text on tanish grey (like it is now)?<p>Are the icons too distracting? Are they good, or would you suggest I do something else? Maybe I should ditch the orange background on these icons, and go with orange text when mousing over the buttons?<p>Some idea I have planned:<p>* Search field in header * Automatic next page loading with ---page n--- separators (if I can get this to work with the API I'm using) * Replace submit button with a visually persistent composer item.<p>Let me know what you think of these ideas too.
samholmes大约 12 年前
This is a continuation of a post I made a couple days ago, title "Hacker News Redesign". It was a link to a jsbin. This time, it's a Github Page, which means it can update, so check back often.<p>I plan on accepting feedback on this redesign. I already took some feedback from the last post. This time, I can update the project upon feedback, and keep a dialog about the design.<p>Hope you enjoy it! :)
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sthkr大约 12 年前
I've been using the Hipster News chrome extension to make it look different and it's been quite good so far. <a href="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hipsternews/midnccdcbhikpniledkdhojbhdnkkkdb" rel="nofollow">https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hipsternews/midncc...</a> It looks similar to the DesignerNews website,
xwowsersx大约 12 年前
I dunno why, but that font seriously hurts my eyes.
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rurounijones大约 12 年前
Requires JavaScript while the current site doesn't which is an automatic black mark in my book.<p>Also having the comments link on the exact opposite side to the story link is annoying for me since I usually middle click the link and the comments link in succession
nightson大约 12 年前
Anyone using this css? <a href="http://userstyles.org/styles/46270/georgify-for-hacker-news-solarized" rel="nofollow">http://userstyles.org/styles/46270/georgify-for-hacker-news-...</a>
aaronpk大约 12 年前
Why did you remove the domain? It's super useful to see the domain the article is on because it gives a little more information about what the link might be.
vansteen大约 12 年前
First impression:<p>1/ You cannot visualize which link has been previously visited. Important for me!<p>2/ It's harder to read. Too much white spaces maybe.
jpswade大约 12 年前
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mike_g大约 12 年前
on the ipad text that is too long for one line is displayed partly in the next line, intercepting with new line text, and it is making me sad
mtgx大约 12 年前
Too bright?<p>A little off-topic, but I've just discovered Hacker News 2 [1] for Android, and I <i>love</i> pretty much everything about it (except its icon perhaps). I love its sidebar menu, that some of Google's apps use, too, and I hope it becomes a default way to do menus in Android. And I also prefer its "greyish" background, which I think is much better for the eyes than simply a white background. I strongly recommend everyone with Android tries it. It even has a "night mode":<p>[1] <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airlocksoftware.hackernews&#38;feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5haXJsb2Nrc29mdHdhcmUuaGFja2VybmV3cyJd" rel="nofollow">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airlocksof...</a>
webreac大约 12 年前
no, thanks. Too much wasted space. Too much contrast (white background). Too much effort to associate the right column with the title on the left (lack of zebra). Tabular form is something of the past ;-) The single improvement I see for HN would be to remove the number at the left of the titles.
dariot大约 12 年前
On small pc screens the number of comments for long rows overlaps the number of comments in the following row.
EugeneOZ大约 12 年前
Not faster than old. At least less ugly.
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conradfr大约 12 年前
I don't really care about a redesign, but my god I'd like collapsible comments.
spajus大约 12 年前
Why?