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How Microsoft quietly built the city of the future

167 点作者 raghavsethi大约 12 年前

25 条评论

johnohara大约 12 年前
<i>In one building garage, exhaust fans had been mistakenly left on for a year (to the tune of $66,000 of wasted energy). Within moments of coming online, the smart buildings solution sniffed out this fault and the problem was corrected.</i><p>And also why this work is important. Environmental and conservation arguments aside, it means $66,000 worth of product and services had to be sold to pay for one simple mistake.<p>In large organizations, these types of mistakes occur every day and can add up quickly.<p>The article was light on specifics, and the ROC control room doesn't seem to bespeak a 500 acre campus, but actively pursuing the problem looks very interesting.
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bretthopper大约 12 年前
This is a pretty poor attempt at copying the NY Times design for their Snow Fall project (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2012/snow-fall/#/?part=tunnel-creek" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2012/snow-fall/#/?part=tunne...</a>).<p>It's lacking the top nav and the typography is terrible. Generally just lacks some polish and execution.
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kragen大约 12 年前
&#62; That data has given the team deep insights<p>What a shame they didn't bother to include any of them in the article. Instead they filled it with shitty similes like this:<p>&#62; Microsoft’s buildings were experiencing data dissonance that would make the works of Igor Stravinsky sound like a barbershop quartet.<p>I was no fan of Microsoft in its Gates days, but I can't imagine it would have produced anything as bad as this article. Apparently the reason for this content-free article is that Microsoft hired some dumbshit to write it who couldn't be bothered to learn enough to understand what they were writing about:<p>&#62; He projects the algorithm on a screen, and then launches into a deeply technical explanation about when a discharge air pressure set point is something-something, then the air is being overcooled by something-something for a duration of 900,000 milliseconds.<p>The Accenture white paper linked <a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/8/8/4885BBB9-2675-42CB-9CF2-F11B69C3C2FB/energy-smart-buildings-whitepaper-1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/8/8/4885BBB9-2675-4...</a> is slightly better, but only very slightly.<p>Sensor networks are a promising approach for improving the efficiency of existing buildings, but the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivhaus" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivhaus</a> approach seems much better for new buildings. Instead of removing unwanted heat with finicky mechanical systems with valves that get stuck, you don't let the heat in in the first place; and similarly for maintaining warmth in the winter. There's plenty of solar energy to keep your temperature pleasant year-round, unless you're in Siberia or something, and solar energy used to heat your house is 100% efficient, rather than the 20% provided by photovoltaic panels. It's mostly stupid to use marketed energy to heat and cool things.
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rlu大约 12 年前
I had originally commented saying that this was a great read. I was only half-way done though. After finishing the entire thing, I agree that it could have used more details.<p>Overall I do think it's a good read (so, you know, some of you should read it instead of just posting about the layout of the site..). It just could have had a little less fluff and more details. You do end up getting a solid sense of how useful this could be to other companies.<p>I thought the whitepaper linked on the fifth page might be a good source for more information, but unfortunately the link didn't work for me.
eykanal大约 12 年前
Very interesting overview. I wonder how the sensors work... can they detect a broken pipe at a specific location? The article also kept referring to "equipment"... how granular does that get? Is an entire heating system one piece of "equipment", or can they get down to the component level?<p>Still, very cool. I know we trivialize dealing with lots of data, but still, this is a huge amount of information they have to automatically receive, triage, prioritize, and possibly even act upon. Impressive.
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freejack大约 12 年前
It might just be me, I found that initial scrolling transition to be brutally distracting.<p>And I wanted to give the article a proper chance, so I read down the page and stumbled over the navigation to the next page, which gave me this error:<p>"We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found."<p>And then after a few seconds, that page redirected me automatically to a Bing search for this string:<p>"en us news stories 88acres 88 acres how microsoft quietly built the city of the future chapter 2 aspx"<p>At least Bing had the good sense to return the original article as the first result.
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archangel_one大约 12 年前
Sounds interesting, but totally lacking in specifics, or enough explanation of how some of the claims would work. Like the statement on the first page that engineers would be able to fix a stuck damper or leaky valve with "a few clicks" - how's that gonna happen, exactly?
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dsdjung大约 12 年前
Looks like smart building and smart city concept is a continuation of the things that were happening in his previous work at Cisco. Great potential and a good vision. Only seeing this moving at any speed in small patches, but a real difference when you have it.
mturmon大约 12 年前
Breathless in tone and lacking specifics. Seems like interesting work, though. Frustrating.
deckar01大约 12 年前
This is what happens when the maintenance crew finds the keys to R&#38;D.
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zem大约 12 年前
am i the only one who found this exciting? sure, the tone and content are puff-piecey, but reading between the lines they are doing some genuinely interesting things with data acquisition and centralised control, and proving that it works on a largish scale, with measurable (not to mention large!) savings in terms of money and energy.
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k3n大约 12 年前
Since this is obviously a marketing piece from MS, I'll attack the delivery and not the substance (since the substance is propaganda anyways)...<p>But are we back in the year 2000? That header image is 936kb! And for what purpose -- to show that they're in-tune with the over-saturated photo hipsters? Seriously, the image doesn't even lend anything to the article; looks like just a generic shot of some random 'burb. I see no signs of high-tech or futurism represented. What...the.....they have another gigantic, completely useless image on each of the next 2 pages as well?<p>And this horrid navigation thing that slowly slides in at the bottom? It doesn't even queue (if you scroll up/down rapidly a few times the nav bar will bounce up &#38; down several times in succession).<p>This might be the worst website I've seen all year.
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malyk大约 12 年前
All the technology stuff is great, but as for this being the city of the future? Pass!<p>It's far to spread out. It's not very walkable. There's too much space dedicated to parking. etc. It fails almost every test for being a good city. It's basically a technology enabled suburb. Gross.
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cybernoodles大约 12 年前
Also, NASA has been doing prototyping for this tech since 2007: <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/sustainability-base/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/sustainability-base/index....</a>
bazzargh大约 12 年前
I'm not going to knock the story (oddly I was checking my home's year on year power reduction just before I read it) but I have to wonder if there is a connection to the previous story about SuperDaE (<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5274345" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5274345</a>)<p>Specifically the bit that purportedly showed a screenshot of "Control power to individual outlets" on the MS network?<p>I know, probably coincidence.
gamblor956大约 12 年前
As a counterpoint to all the negative comments about this article's typography and navigation, I viewed this article in IE9 at work and had absolutely no problems with the typography (which properlyl displays as Segoe UI) or with navigation.<p>Who would have thought that a Microsoft website looks best in a Microsoft browser?
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l0c0b0x大约 12 年前
Thank you for building the city of the future Microsoft, now please build a simple website that isn't broken for Firefox and Chrome users: &#62;50% the users on the planet.
blaines大约 12 年前
Oh, I didn't even notice there was a page 2...<p>Interesting though, wonder if there's any crossover with their "Smart Home" projects.
auctiontheory大约 12 年前
Microsoft realizing it can no longer compete in software and turning instead to real estate ... will be the mother of all pivots.
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sneak大约 12 年前
It's not "quietly" if you spend $20k in engineer time to make a parallax-scrolly webpage to show it off to the world.
rocky1138大约 12 年前
Did anyone else get a 404 when they went to this page?
mrcactu5大约 12 年前
i like how Microsoft is quietly reinventing itself -- by stealing everyone else's great ideas. Nonetheless...
ttrreeww大约 12 年前
If that's a city of the future, then I don't want any part of it...
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zenbowman大约 12 年前
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3dptz大约 12 年前
<i>I'm not going to comment on the substance, but OMG Micro$oft sucks!</i><p>Anything with Microsoft in the title is trollbait I guess.