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My Medical Choice

227 点作者 tbassetto大约 12 年前

23 条评论

Swizec大约 12 年前
I find it fascinating that just over a hundred years ago proactive teeth removal was a standard practice. Women would get all their teeth removed to save money for the prospective husband. And left untreated for too long, rotten teeth will definitely kill you through infection.<p>These days, women are getting proactive mastectomies, not so much because of the costs involved in treatment, but because cancer is a much scarier disease than teeth rot. At least to us. To us proactively removing your teeth is a bad joke.<p>In 100 to 150 years, will people think about a proactive mastectomy as a bad joke? I sure hope so.
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Evgeny大约 12 年前
<i>I am fortunate to have a partner, Brad Pitt</i><p>Took me a few seconds to process and understand who the author is.
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michh大约 12 年前
Preventive medicine like this saves lives and money. But try convincing the pencil pushers. Looks like in both privatized and nationalized healthcare, they are often only willing to pay when there's a disease to diagnose. Not when there's an 80% chance you'll get it later when it's much harder and expensive to cure. Unless you have Jolie money and can simply afford to pay for it yourself.
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rms大约 12 年前
Note that the BRCA test costs $3k when purchased through a physician, but 23andme violates the patents and tests for BRCA for $99. <a href="http://23andme.com" rel="nofollow">http://23andme.com</a>
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rdl大约 12 年前
I assume a lot of women would want to wait until after they were done having children (particularly since ovaries would also be removed). It might be a harder choice between "mastectomy/oophorectomy and sterility" and "increased risk of cancer" for a 22 year old.<p>Also surprised the patents on BRCA didn't come up in this article, just the cost.
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gdonelli大约 12 年前
At first I thought, this wasn't relevant to HN. But then I realized that A. Jolie is hacker. She is trying to hack her life.
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irollboozers大约 12 年前
Elizabeth Iorns, the CEO of Science Exchange (YC S11), is currently conducting independent research to find a potential cure specifically for the BRCA mutation.<p>(<a href="https://www.microryza.com/projects/can-we-prevent-the-transmission-of-brca-mutations" rel="nofollow">https://www.microryza.com/projects/can-we-prevent-the-transm...</a>)
spullara大约 12 年前
This is generally covered by insurance in the US, including the reconstructive surgery.<p><a href="http://breastreconstructionnetwork.com/will-my-insurance-company-pay-for-a-mastectomy-to-reduce-my-risk-of-breast-cancer/" rel="nofollow">http://breastreconstructionnetwork.com/will-my-insurance-com...</a>
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davidrudder大约 12 年前
My mother lost both breasts, her gallbladder and her fallopian tubes to 4 separate cancers. When they discovered the BRCA gene mutations, she was tested and turned out positive. My sister tested positive and had proactive masectomies and hysterectomies. I was tested as well, but came up negative for the BRCA mutations (<i>phew</i>). I'm male, but if I was positive it would have meant changes for my daughter.<p>One advantage of the human genome project was that it lead to discoveries like the BRCA mutations. Now, the women in my life could decide ahead of time to prevent these cancers.
stevoski大约 12 年前
Do any of my fellow HN readers know enough to say that Angelina Jolie processed the available information of her extremely high risk of breast cancer correctly? Is the mathematics logical?<p>Something I wondered is, that given that 1 in 3 American women will have cancer sometime during their life, (and 1 in 5 will die from cancer), how much has she improved things by reducing from 87% to 5% the chance of having one specific cancer?
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js2大约 12 年前
See also <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5607618" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5607618</a> (discussion of "Our Feel-Good War on Breast Cancer"). That article does not address women with a BRCA mutation however.
juskrey大约 12 年前
Google: "Angelina Jolie complies diet, which combines a high percentage of carbohydrates and proteins with a low percentage of fat intake."<p>Meanwhile, in PubMed: "Women in the highest glucose quartile were 63% more likely to develop breast cancer."
jergosh大约 12 年前
Her going public about this has got a great potential to raise awareness and make other women more likely to consider this course of action. The sad reality is, however, most women won't be able to afford the reconstructive surgery (or to have it done to the standard Angelina Jolie has).
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dannowatts大约 12 年前
i think it's brave and commendable of ms. jolie to open up about something so personal and difficult, using her fame and notoriety to help others who come into similar situations.<p>much respect sent her way.
startupstella大约 12 年前
I think this is a great example of how a celebrity can use star power to impact the lives of other women. I only wish she had not done this in secret...if there are tabloid reports of pregnancy and weight loss, why not on such an important issue that can have an impact?<p>I also wish (for the first time ever) that she had introduced herself earlier in the article. Just like many readers, I didn't realize this was Angelina Jolie until very late in the article (which doesn't minimize her story, it just puts it in a different context).
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Mz大约 12 年前
I will add that breast cancer runs very heavily in my family. My sister has had two mastectomies and four occurrences of breast cancer. My mother has had two occurrences of breast cancer, one mastsctomy, one lumpectomy. I took care of my sister after her first mastectomy. I know how severely and permanently impaired my two workaholic relatives are. Angelina Jolie may be less impaired than my relatives because she might not have had lymph nodes removed. But this is major surgery and she is really downplaying that.<p>My sister likes to garden. She used to dig in the red Georgia clay with a pick axe. These days, she can't even vacuum. Her arms are prone to swelling. She does not have the strength she once had. Her life is far more limited than it once was. For years, my mother owned two pathetic, falling apart bras. Anything new with the eladtic still working made her arm numb and caused it to swell. She cannot tolerate anything snug, so she also wears a hugely oversized one piece bathing suit. They carry on and are not complainers. But the reality is they are both very seriously and permanently impaired.<p>Having seen what my relatives have been through, I understand why Angelina would make such a radical choice. I have done some rather extreme things as well for health reasons. But I am disturbed by the way this is being glossed over. I hope she remains satisfied with her choice. But with her fame and beauty and social influence, I think she is being negligent and irresponsible to make light of the consequences of this surgery. It may be a perfectly reasonable thing to do, but it is not without consequence.
Mz大约 12 年前
I have mixed feelings about seeing this. On the one hand, I do understand why she would make such a choice and I am cool with her using her fame to try to promote awareness and discussion. On the other, I am not happy with the way so much of modern medicine mutilates people instead of making them genuinely healthy and her example helps encourage people to feel that is okay.
Eva_Peron大约 12 年前
Best of luck to Crash Override. You're the best!!
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lostlogin大约 12 年前
The quality of the surgery is important too. If a plastic surgeon does it they tend to be less aggressive in scraping every last bit of tissue off before reconstruction. Breast surgeons tend to be more aggressive. Source: breast surgeon in the practice next door who I was discussing this with. Due to the source there may be a bit of profession bias.
exit大约 12 年前
is this on the front page of hn because jolie starred in hackers?
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EvilLook大约 12 年前
And what do women without insurance, money, and BRCA mutations do?
Swisscoder大约 12 年前
utterly pointless... By that logic some say we were born to the grave.
yason大约 12 年前
You can run but you can't hide. Body is a 100% accurate signal of your condition. She's messing with it to remove reception: it's like taping your car's warning light black so that you won't have any problems.
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